[Talk-us] Removal of sensitive data in East Bay Regional Park District, CA

Brian M. Sperlongano zelonewolf at gmail.com
Thu May 12 14:05:03 UTC 2022


One of the categories of information discussed was personal information.
For example, we have wide agreement that we do not map individual ownership
information of residential properties, even though this information is
easily available online in public records in most jurisdictions in the US.
So the fact that someone can find something somewhere online to me is not
an argument for its inclusion.

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 9:57 AM Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I contacted the original mapper.  He said the information originally came
> from:
> https://eastbayhillpeople.com/map/
>
> The information was publicly available (although not "public domain" - the
> page is copyright and that could be another issue) prior to being in
> OpenStreetMap, and it remains publicly available as of now.  If we remove
> the information from OSM it does not protect the sites as that information
> is easily available elsewhere, it just makes OSM a less rich data source.
>
> While not all data belongs in OSM (Frederik gave some good examples), I
> think we should be careful to not head down the slippery slope of allowing
> government officials to dictate what we map. We should listen to them, like
> we listen to anyone else, but the bar should be fairly high for data
> removal.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 7:32 AM Brian M. Sperlongano <zelonewolf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I appreciate all the thoughtful replies on this topic.  It's hard for me
>> to weigh in substantively on the topic simply because I don't feel that I'm
>> informed enough about tribally sensitive areas to really offer an informed
>> opinion.  What I do know is that the representatives of the people of
>> California freely created the East Bay Regional Park District to, among
>> other things, think about how best to manage the lands under their
>> administration.  Absent some really compelling reason why we should
>> second-guess their judgement on this topic, our default position ought to
>> be to respect their position on sensitive areas.  We should respect the
>> autonomy of a community to set mapping standards, and that "community"
>> should include the broader society that cares what gets put on maps and not
>> just the few of us that choose to actively participate in this project.
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