[Talk-us] [Talk-us-newyork] LAST CALL: Looking to start on reconciling New York City admin boundaries

Kevin Kenny kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com
Tue May 24 17:16:30 UTC 2022


On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 11:43 AM Marcel Dejean <mrd79 at case.edu> wrote:

> The Manhattan borough boundary is from the same import that had the
> neighborhood boundaries which I deleted a year or so ago. It ought to be
> deleted and the county boundary reused. I'm not sure about the other
> boroughs, but it sounds like they're just as bad.
>

They are indeed just as bad.  (Uhm, Queens is worse- the imported boundary
excludes some inhabited areas of the borough.)

The same import also has some weird boundaries labeled "territorial waters"
that don't close, don't align to baseline, coastline, 3-geographic-mile
limit, or 12-nautical-mile limit. I'm going to delete them as well, at
least in the areas where they're glued to political boundaries.

The neighborhood boundaries in Queens are well defined - all the locals
know where Corona ends and Flushing begins - so I wouldn't object if
someone wants to maintain them. They were political boundaries until 1898,
and things like 'postal cities' mostly still follow them. But I'm not
likely to do it.

I might redo the community board boundaries from NYC GIS, but it's not a
high priority for me. I got started on this because the Adirondacks and the
Niagara Frontier had no political boundaries at all in OSM. When I got to
where there were political boundaries, I saw they were all misaligned,
sometimes by a km or more.  It's turned into a project of redrawing all
1600 municipalities (which, of course, incidentally redraws alletim
because I find imported misinformation everywhere I look.

Thanks for the confirmation that the imported junk is indeed junk.   I'll
tidy it up in the places where I'm working.

As I move down into Queens and LI, I can supplement the work with strong
local knowledge - I was born in Far Rockaway.
-- 
73 de ke9tv/2, Kevin
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