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    Hi Peter<br>
    <br>
    The underlying errors that are used for the challenges in Kort are
    generated by keepright
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=12&lat=39.95356&lon=-75.12364">http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=12&lat=39.95356&lon=-75.12364</a>
    and while the Kort authors select suitable errors for the game
    itself, they don't influence what keepright considers an error
    directly (see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/kort/kort/wiki">https://github.com/kort/kort/wiki</a>). That said, perhaps
    a pointer to one of the roads in question would be helpful, IMHO
    keepright doesn't actually complain about missing language on street
    names (it does about the same for other objects).<br>
    <br>
    Simon<br>
    <br>
    PS: while Switzerland has numerous places that are truly bi-lingual,
    most aren't and current practice is not to add and extra name:de,
    name:fr, name:it or name:rm if there is only one name (which, if you
    think of it might lead to issues in exactly such bi-lingual places).
    Anyway I definitely don't have a couple of 100 Kort challenges
    around where I live (mono-lingual German speaking region), so likely
    you are seeing something different. <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.01.2014 00:24, schrieb Peter
      Davies:<br>
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cite="mid:CAE30Kk8qyh3Th+i+EC3XKAQZ=T8q=5CsZGjC=5Xcoi5yRAX7RQ@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Simon,
        <div><br>
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        <div>I tried Kort here in Portland, Oregon. It gave me some
          interesting things to think about. I'd hoped to send them to
          talk-ch, but it seems I can't without subscribing in the
          longer term.  Maybe you can relay this to your local
          colleagues?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Kort gave me three types of mission. One was to enter the
          language of some street names here in Portland. The second was
          to enter some speed limits, and the third was to name a pub.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>As feedback, and as a suggestion on how the game might need
          to be modified for countries outside Switzerland, I don't
          think that specifying the language of a street sign is useful
          in essentially monolingual countries. In the USA, street signs
          should always be considered to be in English. There is no
          reason to tag them with any language in OpenStreetMap.
           English is the default.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>There are interesting questions, of course: El Camino Real
          is a common street name in California, and is obviously
          Spanish, so what is the correct English name?  Is it "The
          Royal Road"? No, I don't think so; we would not want to
          translate this to create an American English name.  The
          correct name in English is  "El Camino Real."  The Spanish
          name has been adopted into English usage.  Local English
          speakers would all say "El Camino Real."</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>These thoughts lead me to the "Avenue des <span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">Champs</span><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">-</span><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">Élysées</span>".
          Should we write "<span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">Elysian
            Fields Avenue" in English? No, of course not.  Almost
            everyone has heard of the </span><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">Champs</span><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">-</span><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">Élysées,
            and no-one would dream of writing the "</span><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">Elysian
            Fields". So should we be translating street names at all?
             My conclusion is that only countries with separate, major
            linguistic communities actually do this. Personally I'd like
            my map to say "</span><font face="Helvetica Neue, Arial,
            sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:20px">Hauptbahnhofstrasse</span></font><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">"
            and not "Central Station Street", so I could find it on
            other maps and signs, or try to ask for it correctly in </span><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">Solothurn</span><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">.
               </span></div>
        <div><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">On
            the other two questions, I knew that the urban speed limits
            were all 25 mph, because this is the blanket limit in
            Oregon's urban areas, but when I tried to enter this it was
            rejected. I was allowed to enter 25, but I worried that Kort
            might think this was in km/h.  Would it enter 25 km/h into
            OpenStreetMap if someone confirmed my response?  Meanwhile I
            found all of central Portland's </span><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">residential
            roads</span><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px"> without
            speed tags in JOSM and set them to 25 mph.  </span></div>
        <div><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">Finally
            the pub: I didn't know it!  It still remains to be answered.</span></div>
        <div><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">Thank
            you for this interesting game,</span></div>
        <div><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div><span
style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;line-height:12.800000190734863px">Peter</span></div>
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:38 AM,
            Simon Poole <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:simon@poole.ch" target="_blank">simon@poole.ch</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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              <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <br>
                From the talk mailing list (mandatory disclosure: yes I
                know the authors).<br>
                <div><br>
                  <br>
                  -------- Original-Nachricht --------<br>
                  <br>
                  <div dir="ltr">Hi there,
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>I'm very proud to announce that finally Kort[1]
                      (the OSM game) writes back it's collected
                      solutions to OSM! All changes are made by the OSM
                      user "kort-to-osm"[2], so it's easy to track them.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Our actions were coordinated with the local
                      (Swiss) community and the Data Working Group
                      (DWG). According to the "Mechanical Edit
                      Policy"[3] all changesets have the tag
                      mechanical=yes and the users profile page contains
                      all relevant information about the project. With
                      all the extra information in the changeset
                      comment, we are able to trace back an edit through
                      Kort and even further to its source. By the way,
                      for most missions KeepRight[4] is the source.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Until now we made over 280 changes. All changes
                      were validated by at least 3 users. There are
                      still lots of solved missions that are just
                      waiting to be validated, so that we are able to
                      finally provides them to OSM.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>The source code for kort-to-osm is available on
                      GitHub[5], you are very welcome to open issues or
                      provide pull requests. The underlying python
                      library to access the OpenStreetMap API is
                      osmapi[6].</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>***Apart from this big step, Kort itself has
                      some new features:***</div>
                    <div>- Upgrade to Sencha Touch 2.3 -> now all
                      major browsers are supported (IE, Firefox, Chrome,
                      Safari)</div>
                    <div>- Thanks to our new database server, we can
                      provide missions in the USA as well (no more
                      limits!)</div>
                    <div>- Our homepage <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://kort.ch" target="_blank">kort.ch</a>
                      is available in English, too :)</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Any remarks, comments, issues etc. are very
                      welcome!</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Best regards Stefan</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>
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                        style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">[1] <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.kort.ch/index_en.html"
                          target="_blank">http://www.kort.ch/index_en.html</a> resp. <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://play.kort.ch/" target="_blank">http://play.kort.ch</a></div>
                      <div
                        style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">[2] <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kort-to-osm"
                          target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kort-to-osm</a></div>
                      <div
                        style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
                        [3] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy"
                          target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy</a></div>
                      <div
                        style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">[4] <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://keepright.at/" target="_blank">http://keepright.at</a></div>
                      <div
                        style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">[5] <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="https://github.com/kort/kort-to-osm"
                          target="_blank">https://github.com/kort/kort-to-osm</a></div>
                      <div
                        style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
                        [6] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="https://pypi.python.org/pypi/osmapi"
                          target="_blank">https://pypi.python.org/pypi/osmapi</a></div>
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