[OSM-Talk-ZA] Some elaborate fantasy/ proposed changes added

[John]

I agree that if they are proposed or Under Construction they can be added
and marked as such. That adds value. It may also be that that is the
intention and there is a lack of knowledge. This is why I marked the main
portion of the Alexandra Rd example as Construction and then sent a message
to the author.

My concern is that this may be just someone "having fun" or doing some
University research to see how long it takes to fix problems like this in
OSM. I think like other Wiki type systems this is always a threat. If
anything this would fall under vandalism rather than dispute. Refer
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vandalism

I don't want to jump to the wrong conclusion and therefore wanted to check
with others on the user group who know the areas in which changes have been
made.

Here is my opinion of what I have seen:

In all the examples the proposals are certainly possible although some are
more elaborate than I would expect, all are future. If this is honest or
"playing" I can't say. Perhaps someone else on the list has some insight or
has possible noticed changes in other areas which they are familiar with.

The first example, Alexandra,  is certainly proposed although I would be
surprised to see such an elaborate intersection on Nelmapius.

Vd Bijl extension may also be proposed and parts of the way shown have
construction started. My guess without source given is that some fantasy is
included.

Glen Austin interchange IMHO almost definitely fantasy. Some of the current
roads has even been deleted.

Midstream road again could be proposed, but could also could be imagined.

Here is another example:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-25.94185&lon=28.13667&zoom=16&way=217841674This
road has been doubled and leads over the highway to the road to
Olifantsfontein. All NEW, proposed??

My current suspicion is vandalism but I would be very happy to be proved
wrong.

OSM is currently a great source of map data. With the increased need for
"off-line" data with Smart phone apps etc., OSM is an obvious choice. The
problem is that users are more easily chased away by bad data than won
back, ask any marketer. Therefore we need to find ways to jealously guard
quality. I was recently in Mozambique without roaming and OSM data (OSMAND)
was great!!

Regards,
John

On 12 May 2013 1:53 AM, "Gerhardus Geldenhuis" <
gerhardus.geldenhuis at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi
I am not sure what the issues are. The roads seems to be correctly tagged
but I don't live in the area so don't know. If they are only proposed roads
and is marked as such that is fine.

If you feel that mapping from the user is blatantly wrong then read this:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes

Regards


On 11 May 2013 22:50, John <john.vez at gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > 1) A few weeks ago I noticed on OSMAND that a proposed portion of
> > Alexander Rd had been mapped...
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