[OSM-Talk-ZA] Some elaborate fantasy/ proposed changes added

[John]

Hi All,

I have had some discussion off-line over the last week with Gerhardus
and Grant off-line. Thanks, your support appreciated!!

I need your assistance to evaluate changes in the areas you are
familiar with and to confirm the way forward.

In summary:

There are a number a changes that were made which do not reflect
current status on the ground. I have also done some initial fixes on
ways of "ghost" ways familiar to me by marking the main ways as
Construction or Proposed.

I have sent messages to the marceldup but no response. The messages
did not specifically ask for one.

If this is an innocent newbie expecting him (her) to fix the problems
is probably unrealistic. I think we will just have more to evaluate
later.

>From my evaluation of areas I know I believe there is much
significantly more more damage than value added by the changes made. I
would therefore recommend reversing all the changes. If it would be
possible to find and add back "good" changes afterwards that would be
first prize.

I did manage to find a way to visualise the changes made (Viva Open
source!!) using http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_History_Viewer

The changessets are:

15782102 April 19, 2013 11:42
(none)

15772025 April 18, 2013 12:06
(none)

15771123 April 18, 2013 10:38
(none)

15762241 April 17, 2013 15:56
(none)

15760234 April 17, 2013 11:36
(none)

15750670 April 16, 2013 15:22
New Pretoria East

Ref: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/marceldup/edits

To view the changes with OSM_History_Viewer use the link
http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/changeset.jsp?id=15772025
 where id= changeset number above

Changeset 15782102 unfortunately returns an error. It includes
reduction of the golf course behind Pretoria East Hospital and roads
added where that used to be.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-25.823021&lon=28.30124&zoom=16&layers=M&way=4261732

Any suggestions support welcome

Regards,
John

On 12 May 2013 21:34, John <john.vez at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, It would be good if you can try to resolve this directly.
>
> I agree most users have good intentions. You actually don't really expect
> malicious behaviour.
>
> John
>
> On 12 May 2013 9:22 PM, "Gerhardus Geldenhuis"
> <gerhardus.geldenhuis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> You see to have taken the neccesary steps to contact the user privately to
> resolve the issue and to get a bit more clarity with regards to what he/she
> were trying to do. I would say the next course of action would be to
> potentially get the OSM admins involved to contact the user and/or flag all
> future edits for the user to be reviewed. I am happy to contact the user
> privately if you want to see if it could be resolved amicably. If he/she
> does not respond at all then following steps in the vandalism link you
> included would probably be the way forward.
>
> The problem of data quality is always going to be looming in the background
> and I believe more mature processes will develop to safeguard data quality
> as OSM matures. There is people that are uploading  professionally surveyed
> data so the quality can be very high. I believe that the vast majority of
> people have good intentions and want it to be a better map. There is a
> careful balance to be struck between encouraging new users and pointing out
> problems with their contributions. The problems you describing does not
> sound like new user problems though.
>
> I have just myself reviewed contributions from other individuals to areas on
> the SA map to which I have contributed weeks of my time mapping. One tends
> to become very attached when having spend so much time ensuring good quality
> mapping. I would certainly not appreciate any wrong data in my areas of
> mapping.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
> On 12 May 2013 20:00, John <john.vez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree that if they are proposed or U...
>
>
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