[Openstreetmap] update

Lars Aronsson lars at aronsson.se
Thu Feb 9 20:05:11 GMT 2006


SteveC wrote:

> I'm concerned that nobody was much bothered about ideas of 
> moving to cc-non-commercial or putting google ads on the site. 
> A-la Tom's comment of becoming the delicious or flickr of maps, 
> not the wikipedia of maps. Is that the case?

I must admit I didn't understand what Tom meant with his comment, 
so I'd welcome him to clarify this.  What is a "flickr of maps" 
and how would that work?  I have some photos on flickr and nobody 
can edit them.  Flickr is a for-profit company that sells premium 
services and that was acquired by Yahoo.  Which of these aspects 
could OSM emulate?  No, I'm not sarcastic, I really want to know.

I personally don't want NC, so maybe I would draw my maps at home 
and dual license them.  This should be possible with offline 
editing and free availability to tracklogs (or my own at least).

I think it would be a severe limitation if OSM maps couldn't be 
combined with the GpsDrive software and sold on a CDROM, or 
included in one of the commercial Linux distributions together 
with Project Gutenberg e-texts and Wikipedia and Wikitravel 
articles.

I'm not a philosopher, but I tend to agree with Erik Möller's 
(Wikipedia username Eloquence, former Wikipedia research officer) 
Kuro5hin article from September 12, 2005,
"Creative Commons -NC Licenses Considered Harmful", 
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/9/11/16331/0655

To be more precise, there are two kinds of works: Monolithic ones 
such as recorded song albums or novels, where I can understand the 
need for NC and ND (no derivatives allowed, copying and 
redistribution allowed on a non-commercial basis only), because 
"the whole work is the work" and the creator can want to sell to a 
publisher the rights to printed copies.  Then there are works that 
function more or less like a box of LEGO bricks, where much of the 
joy comes from reshaping, remixing, picking out parts, 
recombinging, repurposing, such as Wikipedia, Wikitravel, and Open 
Street Map.  These are works where ND would be devastating and 
where I don't like NC.  In my opinion, Erik Möller's article is 
only applicable to works of this latter kind, and that's where I 
agree with him.


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  Lars Aronsson (lars at aronsson.se)
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