[OSM-talk] London Underground stations?

[Andy Robinson]

I have contacts with both Metronet and Tube Lines. I'll ask if there is any
way they will give us access to their out-of-copyright data. They have a lot
of it.

Andy Robinson
Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-
>bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Tom Carden
>Sent: 03 July 2006 14:01
>To: SteveC
>Cc: talk at openstreetmap.org
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] London Underground stations?
>
>On 03/07/06, SteveC <steve at asklater.com> wrote:
>> * @ 03/07/06 01:24:57 PM noodles at earth.li wrote:
>> > it
>> > occurred to me that OSM is an ideal method of recording tube station
>> > locations (and probably even a large amount of track given it's above
>> > ground). Is anyone working on this already?
>>
>> Yeah, and Tom'll have lots to say on this.
>>
>
>Well, not lots but some!  AFAIK the things that have been subject to
>take-downs are things that were using modified official tube maps or
>using the tube roundel trademark in some way.  I'm not in favour of it
>and it's crappy that the underground thinks this is worth pursuing in
>a serious way, but it's kind of understandable.
>
>> I started collecting locations on my osm wiki user page when I found out
>> the wikicommons data is all derived from google maps.
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Steve
>>
>
>My own experiments were all with the wikicommons data set, and I was
>really disappointed to find it was traced from Google Maps.
>
>A two-pronged approach is in order:
>* as Steve already is, collect the data ourselves using GPS, out of
>copyright maps and (appropriately licensed) satellite and aerial
>photography.  This could probably be completed in a day by a few
>dedicated individuals!
>* lobby for a freely available official data set including station
>locations, travel times, connectivity, interchange times, etc. since I
>don't think it can hurt TfL for its customers to make their own maps.
>
>Longer term, like Richard I would like to see a geodata license which
>expressly permits geocoding of isolated points of interest.
><far-off-fantasy>If Google and others were to adopt this license it
>would be a huge weight off a lot of people's minds and make the status
>of several large Google-Maps derived databases
>unambiguous</far-off-fantasy>.  Here's hoping.
>
>But yes, in the mean-time please start collecting it.  Nick, does your
>new renderer have an icon for tube stops, and a suggested node tag for
>tube stop POIs?
>
>Tom.
>
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