[OSM-talk] walking - get them to carry a gps!

[Andy Robinson]

I'm no lawyer either but I feel that in order to make use of a public right
of way you need to be told where it is and where it goes. That's the local
authority's responsibility. The only method that it can be realistically
conveyed is via a map (unless the local authority has some other method of
describing the route).

Once you know where a route goes (from a to b) you might be able to follow
it on the ground using markers that exist (and should be there anyway to
denote that it's a public way), but of course all too often they are missing
or misplaced.

Local knowledge can count for something but local knowledge does not
necessarily equal the actual route the right of way takes on the definitive
map held by the local authority.

I tagged a square close to me because I walk along it often. It also states
on the signs at each end that it's a public footpath. If it hadnt I would
need to look at the definitive map to know if I had public access.

So, in this respect I do not see how you can unlink the way with the
definitive map (an os based definitive map presumably).

There is a glimmer of hope though. Most of these long established ways
appear on out-of-copyright maps, albiet that you need the right scale to see
where they really go (eg which side of a hedge). But this of course does not
help the concern about deriving information to be used for the Use Your
Paths campaign from the current OS mapping and then that route being traced
to OSM via gps.

Cheers,

Andy

Andy Robinson
Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-
>bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of David Groom
>Sent: 05 July 2006 15:54
>To: talk at openstreetmap.org
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] walking - get them to carry a gps!
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>Just one query.
>
>Since the challenge is to walk all the rights of way in each grid square,
>then presumably each walker will be planning their route using an OS map,
>and its unlikely to be an out of copyright one :)
>
>In the past the use of OS maps at the planning stage has be frowned upon /
>discouraged /  banned.
>
>The matter of using OS Maps for planning a route was raised a while back on
>the osm-legal mailing list, without as far as I am aware a conclusion.
>
>Just need to be careful we don't encourage a load of GPX tracks which we
>later have to delete.
>
>I'm not a lawyer, but in my view it would seem acceptable to use a map for
>planning purposes and I can't see that it infringes copyright as long as
>nothing is copied from it.  But I know others have a more cautious approach
>
>David
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Nick Whitelegg" <Nick.Whitelegg at solent.ac.uk>
>To: <talk at openstreetmap.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] walking - get them to carry a gps!
>
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>> Steve  made me aware of something like this on the iow, and I noticed the
>> useyourpaths.info site myself in early June. Strangely there seem to be
>no
>> plans to actually do gps surveys of paths. I will try and contact the
>> Ramblers on this -- I know one guy, who came to the Limehouse thing last
>> autumn, is aware of OSM but I'm not sure how aware in general the
>Ramblers
>> are.
>>
>> Nick
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