[OSM-talk] "OSM mapping is difficult" (was: privacy policy)

[Martyn Welch]

How about using JavaHelp?

JavaHelp uses HTML 3.2. OK, we'd have to do a bit or editing to get it from a 
wiki to something JavaHelp would handle, but if Imi could add JavaHelp to 
JOSM, writing the actual help files would be a task that those of us without 
java programming skills could handle.

Having the help start when the application is first loaded, to a "Getting 
Started" page would probably go a long way to solving the problem.

Martyn

On Friday 28 July 2006 15:25, Laurence Penney wrote:
> I think one huge usability improvement to JOSM (and one that isn't too much
> work for Imi) is for JOSM to use Wiki pages as sources for texts to show in
> various places.
>
> e.g.
>
> * some text that appears when you first start JOSM
> * explanations of how to tag
> * descriptions of how to use particular tag keys such as 'highway'
>
> All such pages can be named e.g. "JOSM: Introduction", "JOSM: Adding
> nodes", etc. and be part of Category:JOSM or Category:Keys on the Wiki. We
> can all maintain these pages, while Imi just has to get JOSM to refresh its
> cache of such pages from time to time, perhaps by RSS feed.
>
> -- Laurence
>
> Andy Robinson wrote:
> > Imi, I don't think we have aimed too high and I find JOSM very intuitive.
> > However its not easy to make a start with even JOSM if you are presented
> > with a blank screen at the start. There would be benefit in integrating
> > some geocoder or other location ability so that a new user can get
> > started at the right location straight away. Really cool if on the OSM
> > main map page there was a link to JOSM that downloaded JOSM, opened it
> > and loaded the area you are viewing much in the same way as the applet
> > does. But then maybe you think JOSM should be for only the power user. I
> > personally think it can be good for non power users too.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > Andy Robinson
> > Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-
> >> bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Immanuel Scholz
> >> Sent: 28 July 2006 13:59
> >> To: talk at openstreetmap.org
> >> Subject: [OSM-talk] "OSM mapping is difficult" (was: privacy policy)
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>> OSM mapping is difficult - I suggest we should be raising the bar to
> >>> participate, rather than lowering it, at least in the early stages.
> >>
> >> If this is the case, then we failed misserably.
> >>
> >> If OSM if something other than an approach to make mapping and using the
> >> stuff easy for all, then it is time to start another project with the
> >> goal to "make mapping and using the maps easy for all", maybe with lower
> >> secondary goals (e.g. loosing applications that require tighty
> >> structures).
> >>
> >>
> >> Or maybe I am in the wrong community?
> >>
> >>
> >> Ciao, Imi
>
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