[OSM-talk] landing stage

[matthew-osm at newtoncomputing.co.uk]

[ All the top-posting... it's so confusing :( - message reorganised below ]

>> >> I need a landing stage, ....where boats can land.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone invented that tag yet, we have loads of them.
>> >> highway=landing stage ?

>> > Interesting one that. If its a slipway ramp I'd perhaps be in two minds
>> > whether to call it waterway=slipway or highway=slipway but would probably
>> > pick the latter as its not actually part of the waterway itself. For a
>> > landing stage its very much in the water (assuming we are talking about
>> > the same thing) but it too has a highway rather than waterway function so
>> > highway=landing_stage would make logical sense to me.

>> not a slipway, I mean a pier (on piers) made from wood, sometimes concrete
>> for boats on lakes, rivers. Small boats, like barges, not cargo ships.

> There is a proposal for manmade=pier, would that do

I think that using highway= is wrong. My knowledge of piers and landing stages
is rather non-existant, but I have seen some that you can walk down, some that
could be driven down, and some that have railways only.

So this could eventually require something like

  highway=pier_footway
  highway=pier_service
  railway=pier_rail
  highway=landing_stage_footway

Better to have

  <something>=pier
  highway=service
  
  <something>=pier
  railway=rail
  highway=footway

  <something>=landing_stage
  highway=footway

...the question is what do you use as "something"? ;-)

I agree, "manmade" sounds a bit wierd, although it is true. Waterway is out -
it's used for things that _are_ water, so the double use for things that go
on/in water is confusing. Something like "wateraccess" maybe? This is probably a
dreadful suggestion, as I'm usually useless at thinking this stuff up.

This would be linear

  something like a small landing stage:
    wateraccess=landing_stage
    highway=footway

an area

  maybe a larger pier:
    wateraccess=pier
    wateraccess_construction=concrete

  (this would contain things like highway=footway or railway=rail as separate
  ways)

or a node

  on a riverbank:
    wateraccess=boat_hut

There is already leisure=slipway. This seems like a bad use of "leisure" to me;
I think (linear) wateraccess=slipway is probably better.

Cheers,

-- 
Matthew