[OSM-talk] growing the volunteer base

[Andy Robinson]

Etienne [mailto:80n80n at gmail.com] wrote:
>Sent: 20 September 2006 10:13 AM
>To: Andy Robinson
>Cc: SteveC; talk at openstreetmap.org
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] growing the volunteer base
>
>On 9/20/06, Andy Robinson <Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>	Etienne wrote:
>	>Sent: 20 September 2006 9:22 AM
>	>To: SteveC
>	>Cc: talk at openstreetmap.org
>	>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] growing the volunteer base
>	>
>	>On 9/20/06, SteveC < steve at asklater.com> wrote:
>	>
>	>       I had a chat with tom steinberg of http://www.mysociety.org/
>last
>	>night.
>	>
>	>       He was very much of the opinion that wiki should be www and
>www
>	>should
>	>       be edit, and also sung the praises of their volunteer
button.
>	>
>	>
>	>+1 Agree strongly.  There are some proposals for a new improved
>front page.
>	>We can, and we should, switch wiki. and www. immediately.
>	>
>
>	I wouldn't go quite that far. I'd prefer to see the single portal
>page as
>	the new mockup is now. The portal page (and any supporting pages)
>needs to
>	be hosted on a server than can take a big hit. Will Bytemark carry
>it? This
>	then points to the various internal OSM servers and the wiki. Then
we
>should
>	always on the whole always have something to say on the portal even
>if
>	access to elsewhere is a problem when we get hit hard again. As is
>bound to
>	happen.
>
>
>What I mean is change it right now (this morning), *until* such time as the
>new portal pages are ready.  There is good progress on the portal page but
>it will be a while before it is ready.

+1, I agree a change while the iron is hot is a good idea. Even if its only
a temporary measure.


>
>Switching wiki. with www. is a trivial task that will make a very big
>difference to all the casual visitors we are getting at the moment.  Right
>now they see a map with nothing on it.  If they went straight to the wiki
>they would see a featured map which shows off OSM at its best.
>
>The point about server load is a good one.  Would a slashdotting of our
>wiki server at Bytemark impact other Bytemark customers?  If so they might
>not be so happy to host us.  I doubt that either www. or wiki. would stand
>up to a seriously heavy load, but I rather see the wiki take the strain
>than the main site (which is already strained enough).
>
>Etienne
>
>
>
>
>
>	Cheers,
>
>	Andy
>
>
>	>
>	>
>	>
>	>
>	>       If you go to http://www.mysociety.org/ and hit 'volunteer'
>and play
>	>       around you'll see what I mean. It's a nice pretty thing atop
>their
>	>bug
>	>       tracking system. It asigns someone to a task and alerts the
>	>developers.
>	>       It suggests to the new volunteer that they join a mailing
>list and
>	>get
>	>       more involved. He said it had been a big boost to their
>volunteer
>	>       numbers.
>	>
>	>       Could something similar work for us? Would someone like to
>hack
>	>       something like it on top of trac?
>	>
>	>       have fun,
>	>
>	>       SteveC steve at asklater.com <mailto:steve at asklater.com>
>http://www.asklater.com/steve/
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