[OSM-talk] tagging segments - Was Re: Problems with Osmarender

David Groom reviews at pacific-rim.net
Sun Sep 24 23:35:01 BST 2006 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Etienne" <80n80n at gmail.com>
To: "Ben Robbins" <ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com>
Cc: <talk at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Problems with Osmarender


> On 9/24/06, Ben Robbins <ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> This doesnt seem to be the problem.  There are already a few spots that I
>> had made ways without really knowing why. They didn't/don't render.
>
>
> Check the tags.  The ways must have a highway tag.
>
>
> Just to
>> check I made another and copied the data that was on the section that 
>> does
>> render,  and it didnt render.  (I did this on a few different road types)
>>
>> Also A couple of questions have come to mind.  If there is a single
>> segment,
>> how do I group that?.
>
>
> Make a group of one :-)
>
>
> Do all the segments on the way HAVE to share the exact same properties?
>
>
> Yes, that is the definition of a way.
>
> e.g. If one street has houses at some points along it, will I have to 
> split
>> the set of segments into a group of ways according to where the houses
>> are/are not?
>
>
> Yes.
>
Not had a chance to try Osmarender 3 yet, but.

Lets consider a road, named say "The High Street", which is primarily an 
unclassified road.  However part of it has some shops on it, and part of it 
is residential.

I had created one way, named "the high street", and tagged it as 
unclassified, then for the segments which were residential I tagged these as 
abutters = residential, and the segments which were retail I tagged as 
abutters = retail.  This dispaled as a nice road, with one name on it, and 
the abutterts coloured as needed.

Am I to understand this will not now display, and that to display the road I 
will now have to create three ways, on e way tagged as highway = 
residential, one tagged as highway = unclassified, and one tagged as highway 
= retail (is this latter one even valid?)

David





>
>
> Thanks
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Etienne <80n80n at gmail.com>
>> To: "Ben Robbins" <ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com>
>> CC: talk at openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Problems with Osmarender
>> Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:17:31 +0100
>>
>> On 9/24/06, Ben Robbins <ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Cheers for the reply, but i think it leads me onto my next question, 
>> >wich
>> >is
>> >what exactly are ways, and how do I do them?
>> >
>> >I have made all the roads in the area im trying to render 
>> >'highway=xyz''.
>> >Some are still blank in towcester though because i orignally left
>> >residental
>> >ones blank, but i will change them as soon as I'm clear on what this
>> >problem
>> >is.
>> >
>> >I only use JOSM.  I haven't used the online editor for about 5 months
>>
>>
>> A way is a group of connected segments.  Rather than adding a tag to each
>> segment in turn, you can make a group of segments into a way and then add
>> the tags just once to the way.  Each road, or section of road if it is
>> very
>> long, should be a way.
>>
>> In JOSM ways are coloured blue.  Segments are coloured green.  Type W to
>> select the way making tool and then click on each segment in turn that 
>> you
>> want to group together into a way.
>>
>> Etienne
>>
>>
>>
>> Ben
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >From: Etienne <80n80n at gmail.com>
>> >To: "Ben Robbins" <ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com>
>> >CC: talk at openstreetmap.org
>> >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Problems with Osmarender
>> >Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:06:00 +0100
>> >
>> >Ben
>> >I've just had a look at the Towcester area.  It looks like you've been
>> >very
>> >busy - well done!
>> >
>> >The new version of Osmarender does not render segments any more.  This 
>> >is
>> >to
>> >encourage people to tag their roads as ways.  This is the main reason 
>> >why
>> >you are not getting anything out of Osmarender - all you have is
>> segments,
>> >no ways.
>> >
>> >The other problem, which you would have had, even with the previous
>> >version
>> >of Osmarender, is that quite a few of your segments do not have a 
>> >highway
>> >tag.
>> >
>> >Make each of your streets into a way and as a very minimum add a highway
>> >and
>> >name tag to each one.  Then you'll find that Osmarender will start to
>> give
>> >you some nice results.
>> >
>> >BTW you might find that this would be a good time to start using JOSM 
>> >for
>> >editing, it is a lot quicker than the applet (and anyway the applet 
>> >isn't
>> >working tonight because the tile server is down).
>> >
>> >Etienne
>> >
>> >
>> >On 9/24/06, Ben Robbins <ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >I seem to be having a problem rendering everything in osmarender.  I'm
>> >not
>> > >saying this is because of the new things, cause it was doing this
>> before.
>> > >It must be something to do with what I'm doing.  This image should be
>> > >dencely filled with all different road types, footways, tracks
>> > >etcetc.  The
>> > >osm file was 5 meg, and there isnt 5 meg of data here.
>> > >
>> > >http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g226/ben_robbins_/osmarender.png
>> > >
>> > >Does anyone know what I'm doing so wrong?
>> > >
>> > >If you need to check out the area/taggin etc, search in OSM for
>> > >'towcester'.
>> > >   Next to none of that town renders for me also.
>> > >
>> > >Thanks
>> > >
>> > >Ben
>> > >
>> > >p.s.  The OSM and CC images seem to appear to one side of the map
>> square,
>> > >wich would mean cutting them out and placeing them on the map, to
>> enshore
>> > >these images still apear on renders.  Could they not just sit inside
>> the
>> > >render square?
>> > >
>> > >
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