[OSM-talk] Village greens are not commons - official

[Barnett, Phillip]

David,
Well, that goes back to my original point AGAINST using the
'village_green' value -  that if you saw an area marked as 'common' land
in the middle of the village, you'd call it the village green, in much
the same way that if you saw a pub called 'The Cricketers' next to it,
you'd probably call it 'the village pub' without feeling the need to
actually label it as such.

But, in any case, since there is now a legal distinction (though no
practical one, as far as I can see) between commons and the subset of
commons called village greens, then I'm perfectly happy, as I said, to
withdraw my objections.

****Offtopic**********

http://www.iankitching.me.uk/history/cam/commons.html says Parker's
Piece was created as 'common pasture'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker%27s_Piece says 'Parker's Piece is a
perfectly flat and very roughly square green common ' 

Ownership by the City Council does not preclude it being 'common' ground
- most (all?) 'commons' are owned by some person or organisation. 

Regards

Phillip




-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of David Earl
Sent: 21 February 2007 18:00
To: OSM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Village greens are not commons - official

I think this misses the point though. Whatever the technicalities of the
matter, the point is that village greens are things which are in the
public psyche. No one using common sense would argue that Parkers Piece
is a village green (actually, it isn't a common either - I believe it is
privately owned by the City Council - but let's assume for argument's
sake that it is) and whether common land or not, lots of people would
argue that the open space in Barrington is. It's what people
conventionally call it.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org
> [mailto:talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org]On Behalf Of Barnett, Phillip
> Sent: 21 February 2007 17:09
> To: Barnett, Phillip; guy at graviles-reynolds.org
> Cc: OSM
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Village greens are not commons - official
>
>
> OK, I'm wrong.
>
> While they were pretty much the same thing, from the same origin in 
> the past, since 1965 they've been distinct LEGALLY.
>
> Quote from http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/section.asp?docId=36703
> " What is a Town or Village Green?
>
> Town and village greens share a similar history to common land.
> However, they are defined separately for the purposes of the Commons 
> Registration Act 1965 and the Commons Act 2006. "
>
>
> I hereby throw in the towel as gracefully as possible. :-)
>
> Cheers
>
> Phillip
>
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