[OSM-talk] Baghdad copyright, WAS OSM layer into Adobe Illustrator?

[Barnett, Phillip]

Hi David,
Thanks for the work you've done, without which this thread wouldn't even
be here :-)

And thanks for the explicit permission, which I'll pass on. Actually, I
think I'll try to pass this on to our lawyers anyway, to see what they
have to say.

Phillip 

-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of David Groom
Sent: 22 February 2007 14:32
To: talk at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Baghdad copyright,WAS OSM layer into Adobe
Illustrator?

As far as I know I am the only one who has currently contributed any
data to the Baghdad area.

I'm not sure if I under the terms of my contributing it to OSM I can put
this into the public domain, but if I can then  I am willing to do so.

If I am not the only one who has contributed data, then I assume someone
with more knowledge than me can strip out the contributions which are
not mine.]#]

When I started mapping Baghdad I had two aims:

1) see what was possible solely using Yahoo imagery

2) Generate publicity for OSM- therefore it would be a pity if it could
be used by ITN

Also though its not been specifically cleared up on the mailing lists,
my understanding is that combining something completely different (in
this case a Google Image) with OSM data, does not create a derived work,
where the Google image has to be issued under CC-BY-SA.

David

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barnett, Phillip" <Phillip.Barnett at itn.co.uk>
To: "Richard Fairhurst" <richard at systemeD.net>; <talk at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM layer into Adobe Illustrator?


> This is ludicrous - I've got a national TV station interested in using
> imagery from OSM, great publicity, and it turns out not to be
possible.
> I've been mapping for 10 months because I thought my efforts might
> actually be USEFUL to people....
>
> Please, why can't we pay a lawyer to come up with a license? How many
> people are signed up, 3000 by August, presumably more now? One-off
> contribution of GBP 5 each and voila, several lawyers who can clarify
> this whole mess.
>
> Will anybody else edit out that sentence on the front page, or shall
I?
>
>
> Phillip
>
>>
>
>
> PHILLIP BARNETT
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org
> [mailto:talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst
> Sent: 22 February 2007 13:29
> To: talk at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM layer into Adobe Illustrator?
>
> Phillip Barnett wrote:
>
>> "OpenStreetMap is a project aimed squarely at creating and providing
>> free geographic data such as street maps to anyone who wants them.
The
>
>> project was started because most maps you think of as free actually
>> have legal or technical restrictions on their use, holding back
people
>
>> from using them in creative, productive or unexpected ways."
>> I particularly refer you to the jibe about 'holding people back from
>> using them in creative, productive or unexpected ways.'
>
> Yeah, the opening sentence on the wiki is a very bad joke,
particularly
> when you then go on to the actual page about "Using OpenStreetMap"
> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Using_OpenStreetMap):
>
> "For legal restrictions on the OSM data, see the OpenStreetMap License
> and Legal FAQ."
>
> Hang on, didn't we just say that _other_ maps are the ones with "legal
> restrictions"?
>
> cheers
> Richard
>
>
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