[OSM-talk] Bus sluices and blocked roads
David Earl
david at frankieandshadow.com
Tue Jan 9 13:50:55 GMT 2007
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> [mailto:talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org]On Behalf Of Kristian Thy
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> Subject: [OSM-talk] Bus sluices and blocked roads
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> In Denmark and the Netherlands (at least) we have a contraption called a
> bus sluice - a hole in the road too wide for small cars, but navigable
> by buses and other wide vehicles - for pictures, see:
>
> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bussluis
> http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bussluse
>
> I'll put up a feature proposal for this on nodes - should be shown as an
> orthogonal line across the road (in red, perhaps?).
>
> Another common feature in Denmark (Copenhagen, at least) is an
> equivalent "bike sluice" - a road blocked by a fence with holes wide
> enough for bikes to pass, but not cars. Until now, I've tagged these by
> breaking the way in two and inserting a very short cycleway between
> them, but IMO it should really be a node feature as well. Any thoughts
> on this? An orthogonal line across the road the same color as a
> cycleway?
We have similar arrangements here in Cambridge, and elsewhere in the UK. In
Cambridge, instead of a hold in the road, they use a rising bollard which a
transponder on the bus lowers to let it through (In Oxford, they just put a
sign up saying 'buses only' or some such). In Cambridge these bus gates all
have cycle bypasses. In at least one case, the restrictions depend on time
of day (bollards are lowered at other times).
We also have the cycle gaps you mention. Further, we have streets which are
one way for only the few metres at the end, with a cycle gap to allow
cyclists to bypass the no entry (a 'cycle plug').
So far I have represented these as follows (I did them this way so they show
up on the rendering; I noted we already have tags to determine allowed
access permissions for buses (psv) and the like):
Bus gate: three ways linked to two nodes (close together). The ways on the
outside are highway=cycleway and the one on the inside is
highway=unclassified or whatever and access=no psv=yes. To make it clearer I
have sometimes used highway=service to distinguish it from the roads at
either end. Example in the middle of:
http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/?lat=6802721.86463&lon=12660.11922&zoom=16&lay
ers=B0
(the restriction isn't indicated, of course)
(Photo of this: http://www.camcycle.org.uk/map/location/9398/)
Cycle only gap: just a short length of cycleway between two highways
Examples, between Leys Road and Highworth Avenue at
http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/?lat=6806406.36746&lon=14531.63168&zoom=16&lay
ers=B0 (photo N at http://www.camcycle.org.uk/newsletters/50/article7.html)
and on Hooper Street at
http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/?lat=6802767.24911&lon=15708.64223&zoom=15&lay
ers=B0
(photo
http://www.camcycle.org.uk/campaigning/subgroups/obstructions/images/P000423
2_small.JPG)
Cycle plug: a short length of oneway highway continuing the two way road,
with a short length of cycleway parallel.
Example: several along St Philips Road at
http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/?lat=6802421.49106&lon=16275.94818&zoom=16&lay
ers=B0 (the oneways don't render, yet - they should really have an arrow on
them) (photo http://www.camcycle.org.uk/map/location/6357/)
(sorry about the photo quality - they're not mine!)
David
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