[OSM-talk] A post box called Breuningsweiler

[Andy Robinson]

David Earl wrote:
>Sent: 24 May 2007 9:11 PM
>To: OSM
>Subject: [OSM-talk] A post box called Breuningsweiler
>
>In looking for why certain things weren't behaving as I expected in the
>name
>finder, I came across a number of occasions (464 to be precise) where place
>tags have been applied to things other than places. Most of these are
>aeroway=airport; place=airport and in two cases amenity=airport.
>
>There are several highway nodes where the name is clearly the town name not
>the highway name, and these will be rendered: Cherbourg-Octeville and
>Valognes for example. You might catch a node by accident in JOSM and apply
>a
>highway tag to it, but it is odd that some ways are labelled as both
>highway
>and place.
>
>The remaining 50 or so are apparently borrowing nodes to apply place to
>rather than creating a node for the purpose. These are all sorts of nodes,
>but the effect is to imply that various amenities and other features have
>names. For example, there's a post box called Breuningsweiler, a mini
>roundabout called Birchington and a set of traffic signals which are graced
>by the name Friern Barnet!
>
>The awkward ones are where the name really could be shared, and are
>presumably deliberate overloading rather than laziness. For example, there
>are 11 occurrences of railway=station; place=town/city/village/suburb;
>name=whatever, and a couple of town halls in the same vein.
>
>Seems to me that some tags have a kind of 'category' status (like 'place'
>and 'highway'), and others have 'property' status ('oneway=yes',
>'name=blah'), and when two categories coincide on the same entity trouble
>is
>like to ensue in various applications of the data.
>
>Just thought I'd mention it.
>
>David

I'm just been using out-of-copyright 1:25,000 mapping to do a test area of
input that includes a lot of named POI data (nodes) covering the sort of
things you see on traditional mapping, such as named farms, woods, coppices,
named cottages and Halls, named collieries and all that sort of stuff. In
most cases these seem best annotated under the "place" and "name" tags so
I've been doing the following (examples):

place=farm, name=Blah Farm
place=building, name=Blah Hall or Blah Cottages
place=wood, name=Blah Wood or Blah Coppice
place=works, name=Blah Colliery (Dis)

All these and other examples seem to sit better under the place tag than
anything else, they are all there on the original map to define a place by
its name and location and are just smaller or more specific place tags and
in my view a logical lower extension of the city/town/village/hamlet.....

Cheers

Andy

Andy Robinson
Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk
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