[OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 2

Fri Nov 2 10:39:32 GMT 2007

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>    1. Re: Crash in the latest JOSM and Validator plugin (Andy Robinson)
>    2. Tagging (horse)racetracks (Adrian Frith)
>    3. Re: the coast and colour of the sea (Paul)
>    4. OSM presetation at TeleMobilityForum 2007 - Monza Italy
>       (Edoardo Marascalchi)
>    5. Re: Tagging (horse)racetracks (Mike Collinson)
>    6. natural=glacier voting ended and was approved (Ulf Lamping)
>    7. Freemap - walking routes added (Nick Whitelegg)
>    8. Re: Freemap - walking routes added (Ulf Lamping)
>    9. Re: Freemap - walking routes added (Nick Whitelegg)
>   10. Re: OSM presetation at TeleMobilityForum 2007 - Monza	Italy
>       (Gregory)
>   11. Osmarender: Rendering cycleway tagged as tunnel or bridge
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> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:23:46 +0000
> From: "Andy Robinson" <andy_j_robinson at blueyonder.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Crash in the latest JOSM and Validator plugin
> To: "Frederik Ramm" <frederik at remote.org>
> Cc: Talk Openstreetmap <talk at openstreetmap.org>,	Dean Earley
> 	<dean at earlsoft.co.uk>
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> On 01/11/2007, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > This is a bug report for JOSM and the Validator plug.
>> > I would put it on the JOSM trac, but that also crashes saying it is  
>> out
>> > of disk space.
>>
>> I am freeing up some space there as I write this. josm-dev would have
>> been a better list to post to but as long as I can afford to read them
>> all ;-)
>>
>> > I started the latest JOSM, updated the plugins and restarted.
>> [...]
>> > java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:  
>> org/openstreetmap/josm/data/osm/NodePair
>>
>> This was a problem with an older version of the Validator plugin but
>> if you really have the latest of everything then this should not
>> happen.
>>
>> Check whether your validator.jar has 116832 bytes. Sometimes the
>> automatic update process has it hiccups. If it doesn't, then delete it
>> and instruct JOSM to fetch it anew.
>>
>> Bye
>> Frederik
>>
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>
> I ran into the same problem a couple of days ago so I deleted the plugin  
> and
> refreshed from scratch which fixed it as usual. However I still have a
> missmatch between the ver number on the plugins list display (5194) and  
> the
> one via the plugins tab on the Help/About page (5154)
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>  Cheers
> Andy
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> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:48:17 +0200
> From: Adrian Frith <adrian at frith.co.za>
> Subject: [OSM-talk] Tagging (horse)racetracks
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> Hi all,
>
> Is there any consensus as to how we tag racetracks for horseracing?
> Clearly the area of the racetrack is tagged
> leisure=track;sport=horse_racing but how should I tag the actual route
> of the track? Should I tag it at all? Would
> highway=track;access=no;horse=yes be appropriate?
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 07:43:23 +1100
> From: Paul <mylists at wilsononline.id.au>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] the coast and colour of the sea
> To: OSM <talk at openstreetmap.org>
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> I'm not entirely sure I understand, but I take it from this thread that  
> correcting this
> requires some sort of hack or re-programming to fix the colour and isn't  
> something that is
> likely to be fixed automatically?
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> On 1/11/2007 7:45 AM, Jon Burgess wrote:
>> On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 19:38 +0000, Andy Allan wrote:
>>> On 10/31/07, Jon Burgess <jburgess777 at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 19:32 +0100, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
>>>>> On 10/31/07, David Groom <reviews at pacific-rim.net> wrote:
>>>>>> I belive Artem had some tools which took the OSM natural=coastline  
>>>>>> data and
>>>>>> converted this to the files needed for the sea layer in Mapnik.   
>>>>>> This is why
>>>>>> if you look at an area around
>>>>> I could really use such a tool right now, any ideas where I might  
>>>>> find
>>>>> it? Otherwise I'll probably start writing one...
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a nice day,
>>>> We don't have such a tool.
>>> So how did Artem do it originally for the english coast? I'd really
>>> like to have a go at extending the shapefiles up the west coast of
>>> Scotland, so that my old hometown looks better.
>>
>> I'm not exactly certain. I believe Artem started by import either the
>> PGS coastline data or OSM coastline ways for the UK. He then edited this
>> with Jump (see below) and made sure that the coastline formed a closed
>> way (many of the OSM and PGS lines have small gaps, especially around
>> the coast of Scotland!).
>>
>> You probably want to start by importing the shapefile which is currently
>> used for the coastline polygons:
>> http://tile.openstreetmap.org/shoreline_a.tgz (3MB)
>>
>> The complete set of shapefiles we use is much larger ~600MB
>> http://artem.dev.openstreetmap.org/files/world_boundaries.tar.bz2
>>
>> The majority of this is a single shapefile called shoreline_l which I
>> believe is a PGS import for the whole world. This is the source of the
>> thin blue line shown at high zooms. You can use this as a reference to
>> add more coastline to the shoreline_a file.
>>
>> The shapefile can be edited in a tool like Jump. I used the one from
>> Vivid solutions http://www.vividsolutions.com/jump/
>> I see there is a newer version here: http://openjump.org/ but I have not
>> tried this.
>>
>> I'd be happy to take an improved shapefile. There are a couple of things
>> which discourage anyone from spending much time updating them manually:-
>>
>> - If lots of people want to make update then it will be difficult to
>> merge the changes together.
>>
>> - At some point we will probably replace the shapefiles with something
>> auto-generated from the natural=coastline ways from the main DB. I think
>> it would be better if we spent the effort on writing such an
>> auto-conversion tool.
>>
>> - There is also an outstanding question as to whether the shapefiles are
>> in the correct projection. I know the projection string we use currently
>> ("+proj=merc +datum=WGS84  +k=1.0 +units=m +over +no_defs") is wrong and
>> at some point we probably need to regenerate the shapefiles in the
>> correct projection (I've mentioned this on the dev list previously). The
>> error cancels itself out over the complete rendering pipeline but makes
>> it tricky to use the Postgres DB or shapefiles for anything accurate.
>> The fix requires updates to practically the entire set of mapnik tools
>> (osm2pgsql, these shapefiles, re-import the planet data, update the
>> render_from_list.py and probably a couple more scripts I can't
>> remember).
>>
>>   Jon
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:57:15 +0100
> From: Edoardo Marascalchi <edoardo at edoardomarascalchi.it>
> Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM presetation at TeleMobilityForum 2007 - Monza
> 	Italy
> To: talk at openstreetmap.org
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> I've just uploaded on my website the odp presentation i finished today
> morning.
> The presentation will be projected next 15th november.
>
> I wait for your notes (the presentation is in italian...)
>
> http://www.edoardomarascalchi.it/files/presentazione_telemobilityforum_2007.odp
> http://www.edoardomarascalchi.it/files/presentazione_telemobilityforum_2007.pdf

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