[OSM-talk] Gated Communities

Thom Shannon thom at glow-internet.com
Thu Nov 8 20:36:59 GMT 2007


You could stand 200m away with a compass, get a bearing on a few points 
on the road from different places and triangulate it :)

Or just sod them!

Keith Sharp wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 09:54 +0000, David Earl wrote:
>   
>> In the UK, "Private Road" doesn't usually mean you can't go down it -
>> it 
>> usually means "unadopted", that is the local authority doesn't have 
>> responsibility for maintaining it. If it has a name or serves several 
>> houses, I generally map it, and I haven't had any problems with 
>> objecting residents so far - after all, for all they know, I might be 
>> visiting someone in one of the properties.
>>
>> In any case, again UK only, the worst that can happen is that someone 
>> orders you off - you'd have to do some damage to be susceptible to
>> any 
>> kind of legal action (assuming you're not trying to map a military
>> base 
>> or somewhere that is covered by additional law, where it will always
>> say 
>> so). 
>>     
>
> In Scotland your access rights are now clearly defined in law (unless
> you live near Miss Gloag).  The Land Reform Act and Scottish Outdoor
> Access Code govern access rights.  In the main if you act responsibly
> you can go pretty much anywhere on private land.  On a large private
> piece of land you can be excluded from going within 200 meters of the
> house (with the exception of the aforementioned Miss Gloags house).
> councils can make additional restrictions through bylaws for example
> military bases, airports, etc.
>
> The impact of this is that you probably have no right of access to gated
> communities (unless there is a route you can take that keeps you 200
> meters from the houses).  The same is true of unadopted roads, they are
> not the public highway so the same 200 meter exclusion rule can apply.
> In reality you can probably map both, if someone asks you to leave you
> should.
>
> I've always fancied trying mapping in a hi-vis bib with "Surveyor"
> printed on the shoulders and a clipboard - I reckon you could go pretty
> much anywhere unchallenged!
>
> As for gated communities I find myself torn, part of me wants to say
> stuff them for removing themselves from the wider community, but another
> part of me wants the most complete map possible.
>
> Keith.
>
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