[OSM-talk] Update: Advice needed - dispute regarding names in Cyprus

Hakan Tandogan hakan at gurkensalat.com
Sun Nov 11 17:17:11 GMT 2007


David Janda wrote:
> Hello list
> 
> Further to advice given on the list with regard to the above subject, I
> wrote to user_7363 with regard to deleting name: tags. The essence of which
> was that OSM is used as a navigation tool, and the current names are on
> maps, not the Greek ones of 30 years ago. Also that politics should be
> avoided on a project such as OSM.
> 
> Today, I have received a reply, text follows:
> 
> -----------
>>From user_7363 
> Subject Reply 
> Date Sun Nov 11 15:24:14 +0000 2007 
>  I am afraid the names you have been using are those of the illegal regime
> calling itself the 'TRNC' (which in fact has systematically pursued such a
> policy of wiping out the original names - but that is another discussion).
> What matters is that you are labelling the various locations with names
> which are not recognised as the legal ones under international law. As such
> I will continue reverting them back to their (internationally legal)
> originals. The fact that satnav companies are doing the same is of no
> relevance 
> -------------

Nice. Real nice. You know, that's the kind of person that would have 
deleted data / defaced maps even if the UN came to a resolution that the 
"new" names are internationally recognized, or even created a completely 
new name to stop those disputes :-(

How I hate politics...

I would have said to leave that person alone until he or she simply 
loses interest in OSM and goes elsewhere, you can change the names in a 
few weeks / months.

Do we already need "immutable" nodes?

> I have been using, for example:
> 
> name=Ozanköy
> name:el=Kazaphani
> name:tr=Ozanköy
> name:en=Ozankoy
> old_name=Kazaphani
> place=village
> is_in=Cyprus

This is quite an comprehensive collection of data. You even used the 
english name for is_in, that should have been enough to make that other 
guy happy...

> This is not acceptable to user_7363 and as a navigational aid, his behaviour
> is rendering the project in northern Cyprus pointless.
> 
> I ask for further advice and adjudication.

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