[OSM-talk] Left and Right?

Robin Paulson robin.paulson at gmail.com
Mon Aug 25 12:39:11 BST 2008


2008/8/25 Kevin Ryan <kev.ryan at gmail.com>:
> I would assume that 'foot=yes' on all roads implies that you are allowed to
> walk on the road - not that there is a footpath in parallel with it.

yes, that's probably what it means (is that in the wiki?), but until
there's an explicit difference made in the osm documentation, i'm also
extrapolating it's use for the future to mean, 'there's a footpath on
both sides of the road'. but this is getting away from the point i was
trying to make, regarding bus stops and canal mooring points

at some point in the future, when we do consider footpaths on the side
of the roads, it will likely be done by assuming the presence of
footpaths, unless there's a 'footpath_right=no' (or whatever) tag,
implying that the way marking the centre-line of the road actually
marks the route of the footpath as well, so it follows that the
highway=bus_stop node should be a part of the way marking the road,
not offset to one side


> 2008/8/25 Robin Paulson <robin.paulson at gmail.com>
>>
>> 2008/8/25 Kevin Ryan <kev.ryan at gmail.com>:
>> > "or, consider from the pedestrian's point-of-view:
>> > it is assumed for all roads except motorways and where explicitly
>> > stated, that there is foot=yes access. in which case, the
>> > footpath/sidewalk/pavement is therefore part of the way which represents
>> > the road; we don't draw  a separate way off to one side, running
>> > parallel. the bus stop must be on the footpath for the pedestrian to be
>> > able to walk up to it, so again it must be part of the way"
>> >
>> > Is this the case?  I've never seen this written in anywhere before?  If
>> > this
>> > is the case, how do you specify that there isn't a footpath running in
>> > parallel with one or both sides of a road?  How this then rendered to
>> > indicate which side of a road had a path and which one doesn't.
>> >
>> > I've asked this before in the wiki, but didn't get any answers. I think
>> > this
>> > information for footpaths is very important for people with limited
>> > mobility.
>>
>> no, it's not written anywhere - i'm just using logic to extrapolate
>> what we do at present to encompass how to deal with this situation
>>
>> there is a tag proposal discussion to explicitly determine whether a
>> road has pavements on either side, both sides or neither, but i think
>> it's stalled at some point. feel free to resurrect if you wish, i
>> think it's something that needs sorting
>>
>> i'm sure the implied 'foot=yes', on all roads except motorways, is
>> somehwere in the wikithough?




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