[OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

[Lukasz Stelmach]

Tom Hughes wrote:
> In message <47B9FAC7.30101 at poczta.fm>
>           Lukasz Stelmach <stlman at poczta.fm> wrote:
> 
>> Tom Hughes wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed. I think the problem is that he is reading a page that
>>> documents the HTTP API and expecting it to tell him the format
>>> of a JOSM change file.
>> No, I was reading the page about HTTP API *and* OSM format which reads
>>
>>     For each of the above-mentioned object types, the API supports
>>     these CRUD operations (replace <objtype> by one of node, way,
>>     relation; ***replace <id> by the id of the object in
>>     question***):
>>
>> And I ask: what is the value of the `id' attribute of the object in
>> question when the ID hasn't been assigned yet? Today I know the
>> answer but I am afraid anyone who seeks the answer to that question
>> will focus on this paragraph trying to figure out where to get a new
>> ID from. The DTD saing `id' is required makes this desire even
>> stronger while giving no hint at all.
> 
> The row of the table that covers creation of new objects (the first
> row) does not have an <id> marker to replace, so the question does
> not arise.

But the DTDs on the page require `id'.

> You are trying to extend the meaning of that paragraph, which covers
> the RESTful URLs to the OSM file format as use by JOSM which is not
> something that page describes.

But the JOSM file format is just an extension of the format 
described on the page. When I mentioned sniffing JOSM I meant 
sniffing the transmiton over the wire which uses the format 
described on the page.

> All that page describes is the URLs you should call and the XML you
> should pass to them and/or expect to get back from them.

Let me repeat onece more:
* the DTDs say IDs are *required*
* no paragraph or a single sentence says what values to put in the 
XML for objects we are creating.

-- 
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 >Łukasz<                 Już nie katolicka lecz złodziejska.  (c)PP


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