[OSM-talk] M(')appare Milano follow on: the presentation and the translation in "English".

Andrea Giacomelli (pibinko) postdadaismo at libero.it
Thu Jul 17 15:55:39 BST 2008

[I will be posting the same to the OSGEO discussion list, from a different 
address - so apologies for cross-postings]


In Italy we are 
having a lot of elaboration on the concept of  "sharing", as well as on the 
relationship between "local" communities and "local" organisations with 
"global" communities and "global" organisations [with the term "global" to be 
intended as it used to be before the post-modern concept of globalisation was 

In the bulge of activities and projects, I managed to make available 
online the presentation I gave with a GFOSS.it/Italian OSGeo chapter in the 
closing meeting of the three-month mapping campaign in Milano (code name M(')
appare Milano).

The PDF is available, in Italian, from the "Presentazioni" 
section on http://www.gfoss.it/drupal/materiale

Thinking of the non-Italian 
reading audience, and trying not to spend a huge load of time in the 
translation, I sought assistance from one of the known automated translation 
services. And this is what I got:


I remember trying similar exercises when 
such services where launched, and having hours of sheer entertainment...I 
hadn't been trying this for a while, and what I read in computer-aided-
translation-English-with-no-review is *beyond all expectations*.

I even 
discovered that one of the GFOSS.it board members is named Steven Coast 
(Stefano Costa). I never realised this before today.
Possibly we have a new 
character together with the "fake SteveC" ?

Also "Thankses" is not bad.


Independently of  the amenity of the pseudo-
translation, I'll be glad to follow on or expand on specific points of 
interest. I think there are some to consider ;)


Andrea Giacomelli, 
aka pibinko
vice president and media relations manager, GFOSS.it

Messaggio originale----
>Da: fabrizio.giudici at tidalwave.it
>Data: 17/07/2008 
>A: "Iván Sánchez Ortega"<ivan at sanchezortega.es>
>Cc: <talk at openstreetmap.
>Ogg: Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM maps in a mobile navigator
>Ok, thanks. 
I've added a quick-and-dirty about box with all the info  
>(the icon overlay 
on the map requires more work, since shrinking the  
>icon to a reasonable size 
turns it into a random cluster of pixels).
>May I just suggest to add a URL 
redirector at
>	       http://openstreetmap.org/Attrib
>that points to http:
>The latter is really long 
for a mobile device, it needs wrapping for  
>rendering and wrapping is not 
aesthetically pleasing.
>On Jul 17, 2008, at 15:14 , Iván 
Sánchez Ortega wrote:
>> El Jueves, 17 de Julio de 2008, Fabrizio Giudici 
>>> I've recently added support for OSM maps (BTW, it's the default

>>> provider) in an open source mobile navigator that I've developed. I'm
guessing which is the best way to give credits to OSM in my
>>> application

>> Well, the current CC license specifies that the attribution notice  
>> has 
to be
>> reasonable to the medium.
>> In other words, if your mobile 
navigator has limited screen real  
>> state, you
>> may choose to display or 
not to display an OSM logo or copyright  
>> notice in
>> the main screen.

>> A simple splash screen with the logo and URL is fine. A notice on  
>> the 
>> section of your program (if you have it) is fine. However, please 
>> link to
>> www.openstreetmap.org *and* either the license page on the 
>> or the
>> CC-by-sa license[2].
>> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.
>> [2] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/

>> As we have seen in The State of the Map last weekend, displaying the  

>> names of
>> all contributors can be a daunting task.
>> Cheers,
>> -- 

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