[OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

[OJ W]

Sounds very similar to the cycleway tagging in Bedford; treat it as a
separate way if it's not on the road, which makes it easy to show if it
takes detours away from the road:

http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=52.1218000936748&lon=-0.489018411255609&zoom=17&layers=0000F0B0F

(the gaps are where it merges with a footpath; it's assumed that these exist
at the sides of most roads, although it might be useful to tag sections
where you're specifically permitted to cycle on the path but have to give
priority to pedestrians)


On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Mike Collinson <mike at ayeltd.biz> wrote:

> At 07:32 AM 24/03/2008, Lars Aronsson wrote:
>
> >It's common in Sweden to have wide sidewalks divided into half
> >footway, half cycleway.  This can happen on either or both sides
> >of the street. Should this be tagged as highway=*;cycleway=lane?
> >Technically speaking it isn't a lane because it's above the curb.
> >
> >How can I indicate which (or both) sides of the street it applies
> >to? If it's only on one side, how can I indicate this?
> >
> >The page [[Proposed features/Sidewalk]] proposes sidewalk=right.
> >Should this be used for cycleway too?  A user comment on that page
> >mentions cycleway:right=lane.  Is that a common use, that needs to
> >be documented?
> >
> >The page [[Cycleway]] instead talks of lane_left and lane_right.
> >
> >The same page also mentions the "width" key, but what are some
> >useful values for this key?  In the case of two wide sidewalks
> >that allow bikes, some separating grass, and double street lanes,
> >should the width be the total width (in metres) from wall to wall?
>
> As a cyclist currently in Stockholm, I personally draw a separate way and
> label it highway=cycleway, cycleway=track, foot=yes, surface=paved.
>
> The main rationale for that is that it is a separate track rather than a
> painted lane division on someone else's road.  Sometimes the track is right
> next to the road, sometimes separated by a grass verge and sometimes it
> wanders off into the woods.
>
> But my main reason for doing that is safety.  I *much* prefer riding these
> cycleways than on lanes marked on the road and deliberately plan my routes
> according.  Drawing a separate way makes them very obvious on the map using
> existing tagging.  I can also easily see where they change side of a road
> and if they have sections where they merge into the normal road as a lane or
> just disappear.
>
> That is my personal opinion, I'm interested it what others think.
>
> Mike
>
> PS Here is a work-in-progress example:
>
> Good:  The southbound Sankt Eriksgatan sidewalk cycleway really is a
> separate track over the bridge and really does abruptly end at
> Aströmergatan. As a bonus, it is clearly shown as one-way.
>
> Bad:  An east-west sidewalk cycleway begins at the corner of Fridhemsgatan
> and Drottingholmvägen, but is difficult to see because of the rendering.
>
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=59.33395&lon=18.02934&zoom=17&layers=B0FT
>
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