[OSM-talk] Cycle lanes

J.D. Schmidt jdsmobile at gmail.com
Wed Mar 26 10:38:22 GMT 2008


Lars Aronsson skrev:
> Alex Mauer wrote:
> 
>> It also has the problem that ways can easily get reversed, and 
>> then the left/right meanings are backwards.
> 
> A bus stop is an attribute on a node (highway=bus_stop) in the 
> middle of a way.  If I want to indicate that this bus stop is on 
> one side of the street, left and right don't matter much, since 
> there can be two ways both pointing towards the node.  It would be 
> better to use the words north, east, west or south.  If the way 
> goes from south-west to north-east, then "north" and "west" both 
> mean the left side of that way.
> 
> 

Shall we paint the outhouse red, green or blue ??

It doesn't matter if the busstop is on the right or left side of the 
road... Neither OSM wise, nor in the real world. In the real world you 
use your eyes and see the busstop. With regards to OSM, you apply a tag 
to the node indicating position of the busstop, relative to the road.
I.E : k="placement" v="left|right|middle"

It doesn't even need to be rendered on the left or right of the road on 
the map, but it could be.

We are not trying to make a virtual copy of the world with the rendered 
maps, we are trying to make a fairly accurate visual representation of 
the world with the maps, that can be used to orientate and possibly even 
navigate around in the real world.

Compromises are made everyday on the renderings of both our and any 
other maps. Thats one of the parts of cartography - Deciding what 
compromises to use in order to make a map for a specific purpose.

So just tag it with common sense, instead of having 2 months of 
discussion on the mailing list - Next people will want to set down 
subcommittees that need to deliver reports on best practices for mapping 
the wastebaskets and their type at the busstops, which then has to go 
through a hearing in the OSMF, and put to a consensus vote twice in a 
year, before being vetoed by some goat-hearder mapping trails in outer 
mongolia, since he doesn't think a wastebasket position should be mapped 
at all, if goat-dung positions isn't mapped as well...

We could call it "Working the EU-OSM way..."

Dutch





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