[OSM-talk] import of dataset for new zealand

[Robin Paulson]

On 21/03/2008, Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog at gmail.com> wrote:
> What defines a major source? If I say I want my data to be displayed
>  with attribution on any application that uses OSM, I don't think
>  that's reasonable. We can reference them on the website, in a press
>  release, whatever. But keep it the hell away from the maps.

point taken, that was badly worded: i meant any source that puts usage
restrictions on their data, such as 'i want attribution clearly
displayed whenever our data is viewed'

which *generally* only happens and is *generally* only entertained (i
would imagine) for large orgs such as linz, AND, etc

it is perfectly reasonable for you (or any other user) to ask that
your data has special attribution, but as that user is likely
contributing less data than the likes of linz, osm are more likely to
say 'we can do without your (small) amount of data if you're going to
put those restrictions on it'

it's a balance - how much value does the data add, versus the cost (in
whatever terms, be it technical, ugliness, money, whatever) of
including it?

>  >  or how about as a separate, floating layer that can be turned on and
>  >  off? something on by default (again, at zoom 18 only)? when the user
>  >  zooms into the area, the layer is turned on, but they are asked
>  >  (subtly) if they want it off from that point onwards? would using
>  >  cookies to determine if they have been to that zoom level in that area
>  >  be workable?
>
>
> You're missing the point. If I run my own mapnik instance and make my
>  own stylesheet the has no attribution because I think it's ugly, can I
>  now be sued because I left it out?

if you break the license terms, yes

> I thought the whole point of this
>  project was to get away from crap like that...

well, partly. but the practicality is that we need a license that says
'do this if you want to use our data' to protect it from bad people,
so it's not unreasonable for people who donate large amounts to us to
do similar