[OSM-talk] [tagging] Road crossings proposal - status?

[Andy Allan]

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Alex Mauer <hawke at hawkesnest.net> wrote:
> Andy Allan wrote:

>  > Let me be blunt: I don't have dev access, and I don't have SVN access
>  > either. So stop with the moaning, and get your facts straight.
>
>  I didn't say you personally did that.  But if the group of people using
>  this crossing scheme were tagging *and rendering* crossings, someone had
>  to have done the rendering bit -- and they would have needed access to
>  modify the rendering system.

The "someone" doing the rendering is me, but I don't have access to
SVN. If you can't figure out how that works, you need to do some more
research.

>  > Oh noes! Since it seems that you'll moan about it not being documented
>  > 12 hours ago, and then moan when I actually do, whilst not raising a
>  > finger to help either way, then you must be out to moan rather than
>  > help.
>
>  I'm not interested in tagging animal crossings.  Naturally I'm not going
>  to try to document the intricacies of british naming conventions for
>  their road crossings when: I will never have occasion to use them as I
>  don't live or map in Britain; I am unfamiliar with names for these
>  specialised crossings for the same reason; I am more interested in
>  having something usable by the world.

So you're unwilling to find out how things are tagged in OpenStreetMap
already, but happy to spout off your thoughts on the matter onto the
wiki. Can I make the suggestion that it's best to concentrate on
what's going on already rather than making up new ways to tackle the
same situation? I know it's completely impossible to be aware of
everything that goes on in OSM, but at least if you're making
proposals on how to tag pedestrian crossings, the first piece of
research should be how they are *already* being tagged. If you're not
aware of it, that's no excuse for ignoring it.

And I know you're aware of it. So there's no excuse.

>  > And for the record, you're the one on the wiki quoting stats from a UK
>  > excerpt, whereas I'm concentrating on figures for the whole planet.
>
>  I'm quoting stats from a UK excerpt because that's the only place where
>  they're used that I could find in tagwatch.  Now perhaps they're in
>  widespread use someplace else that I missed, or perhaps I should be
>  using something other than tagwatch.  Do you have usage figures for the
>  whole planet?

I gave the figures for the whole planet earlier. I'm not wasting my
time posting them a second time just because you're skim reading.

Cheers,
Andy