[OSM-talk] OpenPlantMap

Lester Caine lester at lsces.co.uk
Sat May 17 09:50:37 BST 2008


Steve Hill wrote:
> Peter Miller wrote:
> 
>> I agree. I think we need to adopt a Wikipedia concept of 'notability'. For
>> example... A wood is notable, a large established solitary tree in a park
>> might be notable, but a nettle is not. Is a rare plant notable? I would
>> suggest it is not notable in OSM itself.
> 
> I'm afraid I see the notability criteria as one of Wikipedia's biggest 
> problems so I would hate to see OSM go the same way.  I've seen too many 
> genuinely useful articles get blown away because someone decided they 
> covered non-notable subjects, to the point that I gave up editing Wikipedia.

Same here ....

> The point is: why should anyone care about notability so long as the 
> data is useful, accurate and maintained?
> 
> Wikipedia's deletion policies are deeply flawed: There are a group of 
> users who make it their mission to delete articles.  When they nominate 
> an article for deletion, most of the people who vote either wrote the 
> article, or one of the group who's sole mission is to delete stuff - no 
> one else cares enough about the deletion procedure to take part.  So the 
> majority of the time, well written articles get deleted purely because 
> of the massive bias in the quorum who vote on deletions.  I sincerely 
> hope OSM doesn't decide to go down a similar route.

I would possibly be nice to have something equivalent to 'namespaces' where 
material could be ring fenced and managed as a package of data. I suppose I am 
thinking laterally here again. With the growing volume of data I still see the 
need to perhaps slice it up so that mirror servers can be managed that provide 
a local subset of the raw data. A plant directory or something like that could 
then be provided on that local mirror, with the data being replicated back to 
  the master copy only if approved. This is in essence how the nlpg database 
works, each council has it's own local copy, and agreed data is replicated to 
the national copy.

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