[OSM-talk] National borders in the British Islands

[Dermot McNally]

2008/5/29 Dave Stubbs <osm.list at randomjunk.co.uk>:

> The NI border hasn't been put into the OSM database.

It has. I've been tweaking bits of it for months now. Look for ID 24428706.

> This is just an indication of the conflicted definition of country,
> nation, and national. The borders are in the OSM DB as admin_level 2
> (national border).
> You try telling any one of those nationalities that they're not
> actually a country.... I'll stand well back when you do it.

The word "country" needn't be a stumbling block here. That's just
language. In German, "Land" can mean "Bundesland" just as often as it
means "country". But we can't go tagging UK internal borders the same
way as we do those of sovereign states, because it doesn't accurately
depict reality.

There are plenty of people in Ireland who would resent the Irish
border being described as an international one, but sovereignty is a
well understood concept that has to be reflected accurately on the
map.

Dermot

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