[OSM-talk] Wiki Offline Copy?

Roeland Douma unix at rullzer.com
Mon Nov 10 15:27:30 GMT 2008


I think putting a wiki on a CD is not a smart idea at all. Some reformatting 
will have to be done. Else a lot of links won't work (just take the login 
stuff).

But good to hear we might get a dump every X days soon :)

--Roeland

On Monday 10 November 2008 16:20:57 Alexander Menk wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Grant Slater wrote:
> >> maybe a good intermediate solution would be to provide zipped "wget -r" 
> >> copies of the wiki? Of course not everybody shall do "wget -r 
> >> wiki.openstreetmap.org" because this would cause to much load, but I 
> >> could offer some webspace and do weekly snapshots or s.th. like this?
> >>   
> > 
> > Dude! No no no.
> sorry, did not want to scare you - I just asked...
> 
> > ~23100 pages x multiple page views x all history x special page links = 
> > big scary number. Do not do it.
> I would have excluded the same stuff that is excluded in the robots.txt 
> (history, special pages etc.)
> 
> > Bots are causing most of the load problems on the wiki, do not start 
> > another one.
> "but I want the bot ... ;-(" (Over the hedge / Hammy - "but I want the 
> cookie")
> 
> >> Unfortunately wget is excluded by robots.txt, that's why I ask before I 
> >> do so..
> >>   
> > 
> > Yes, wget is blocked for good reason. Wikipedia blocks it too.
> > 
> > The server which runs the wiki will be upgraded soon. If the community 
> > then agrees, we could setup a weekly data dump. Something like: 
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps
> 
> [x] agree
> 
> Unfortunately a data dump is not as handy as a ZIP file with many HTML 
> files you can just pass around on some CDs to people with modems who are 
> interested in OSM. But with the Data Dump I could set up a mediawiki on 
> my own and do the wget there .. of course. But it's not very trivial to 
> do so, especially including all the images.
> 
> That's why I came up with the wget suggestion. Of course only ONE should 
> do such a wget during a timeframe with a low load on the wiki (but I 
> guess such a timeframe is just not existing...)
> 
> Alex
> 
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