[OSM-talk] Code of conduct for automated (mass-) edits

Gert Gremmen g.gremmen at cetest.nl
Mon Sep 29 23:10:40 BST 2008


Don't exaggerate, this is a serious discussion,
not in need of overdriven arguments.
Keep your arguments to what I propose, not
to what you think I might propose !!!

>>But I'm utterly, totally, completely against any kind of half-hearted measures that work only against those >>who cannot compile their own version of an editor
 I did not propose , just a temporarily measure, quick to release. See remarks later.

>>Next thing you'll say is that the JOSM .jar file has to be signed and only the "official" signed version may >>connect, and before you know it you have a situation where Central Command dictates what software people may >>use. No thanks!
This is what you make up, not what I propose. Read well Frederik !!!

You are right, it goes beyond good old josm and
beyond -we can trust anyone- sentiments.
OSM is growing. Growing beyond -we trust all members-.
Much growing beyond -we know all users-
Growing beyond -we can reach all users--
Growing beyond -we can expect all users to read any "code of conduct"- let alone follow that code
Growing beyond -if something goes wrong Andy or Steve or Frederik will fix it-
My ideas are not that invasive at all; it won't
Stop  anyone from doing what he wants or needs.
The upload limit will not impact any ordinary user,
He just needs to push the upload button more frequently.

(I understand that it won't protect against anyone able to modify
The source, something probably very easy to do.
Just for the time, until the API will take care of that.)
Alternately, JOSM could provide a STRONG warning if a user
wants to upload more data then normally expected, before to proceed.
More error prone, but also more "open" friendly.

I Just want to implement obliged automated
Administration/recording of activity that we are in desperate need
of now, or will be very soon.

Gert Gremmen

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frederik at remote.org] 
Verzonden: maandag 29 september 2008 22:59
Aan: Gert Gremmen
CC: Talk Openstreetmap
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Code of conduct for automated (mass-) edits

Hi,

Gert Gremmen wrote:
> - Let's start with limiting JOSM and Merkaartor to a reasonable number
> of uploads per manual upload action.

I am against implementing any controlling measures beyond "is the 
username/password valid" at this point.

But I'm utterly, totally, completely against any kind of half-hearted 
measures that work only against those who cannot compile their own 
version of an editor! Next thing you'll say is that the JOSM .jar file 
has to be signed and only the "official" signed version may connect, and 
before you know it you have a situation where Central Command dictates 
what software people may use. No thanks!

Bye
Frederik

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