[OSM-talk] xybot

Florian Lohoff flo at rfc822.org
Sat Apr 11 06:59:48 BST 2009


On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:24:51PM +0100, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:
> 
> That would be tagging for the renderer, which is not the OSM way. The OSM
> way is to tag what the object logically is as you see it.
> 

Based on common understanding of the meaning of the tags.

> >Its a matter of common understanding - landuse=forrest and natural=wood
> >are in use and have been defined
> 
> Hold on there. Defined? defined by whom. If you mean its in map features
> then that's cool because I put them there :-D
> On the other hand Map Features isn't a rule book or a prescribed standard.
> Its guidance on how you might like to tag. landuse=wood is perfectly correct
> in English. It means it's a piece of land been used for managed woodland to
> my mind. That's not the same as forest. It might not translate the same for
> you but that's cool. I wouldn't be asking you to accept the tag is correct
> in your eyes, but I am asking you to respect it could be in mine. 

It might be that for you landuse=wood is managed woodland. The
wiki says the opposit and thats what people use to understand
the tags. And i am not talking about any translation in the wiki,
i am talking about the english version and what it says in the
description of key and value usage.

landuse=forest
	http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landuse

	"For areas of land used by people. For natural areas, see Key:natural."

	[...]
	 landuse 	  forest 	  Managed forest or woodland plantation (Other languages). See also natural=wood.
	[...]

natural=wood
	http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:natural

	"This key is used to describe natural features, mostly in
	terms of habitats and geological features. For man-made
	and -managed features, see Key:landuse"

	[..]
	 natural 	  wood 	  	 Natural woodland (trees). See also landuse=forest.


> >And in the above case there are a bunch of people who disagree with
> >using landuse=wood. And it doesnt even fit the keys definition by
> >which landuse means PEOPLEs use - Wood is not peoples use by definition
> >of the value. So landuse cant be used with wood as from whats in the
> >key and value description in the wiki.
> 
> Well, we can agree to disagree on that point.

You not only disagree with me but with the wiki and probably with
loads of mappers who tried to tag according to the description
of the tags in the wiki.

Flo
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Florian Lohoff                  flo at rfc822.org             +49-171-2280134
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