[OSM-talk] RFC - Proposal : mountain and wilderness shelter buildings

[Dave G]

... sorry to double post but it appears I didn't send this to the list :-)

2009/8/2 Dave G <9gerkin9 at gmail.com>

> Syl & Craig
>
> Further to the previous discussion
>
> nearly all back-country huts in NZ are unlocked fees are usually paid to
> stay in them
> either to Dept. of Conservation the government organisation that
> administers them
> or in the case of privately owned huts eg. NZ Alpine Club mountain huts to
> the club
>
> Huts are generally not booked and there are almost no catered huts as
> common
> in France & Switzerland they are available to all on a
> first-come-first-stay basis
> which I understand is quite different to the European model
>
> This is the common NZ backcountry type:
>
> http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/places-to-stay/backcountry-huts-by-region/canterbury/waimakariri/
>
> This is the common alpine type:
>
> http://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/places-to-stay/backcountry-huts-by-region/west-coast/franz-josef-area/centennial-hut/
>
> We don't have bothys as such but there would appear to be some overlap here
> with our huts/shelters
>
> I would suggest fairly hut/lean_to general types as you have suggested
> which can then carry the various feature tags
>
> cheers....dave
>
>
>
> 2009/8/2 sylvain letuffe <liste at letuffe.org>
>
>>
>> > Though reading through that page, and the Wikipedia articles, a
>> > wilderness hut and a bothy seem to be much the same thing.
>>
>> Good point. In previous discussions on shelter, the name "bothy" came a
>> few
>> times. In lack of evidence and knowledge, I proposed it separated from
>> wilderness_hut. (Reading through wikipedia made me think it was quite
>> equivalent). One of the two could be dropped.
>>
>> > In my experience, bothies often have fireplaces, and often have some
>> > sort of sleeping places, usually wooden platforms or maybe bunks (but no
>> > mattress / bedding).
>> That's really close to the definition I have for a wilderness_hut.
>> (mastress/bedding might be suited as an optional tag)
>>
>> > And in the UK, there's also "climbing huts" - these are usually owned by
>> > climbing clubs, and better quality than a bothy. They are kept locked,
>> > and needed to be booked/paid for in advance. See the section in this:
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_hut (note they are different from
>> > an alpine hut, in that they are unstaffed and a bit more basic)
>>
>> The main difference I understand is that they are not opened to the
>> public. An
>> additionnal access=private or permissive tag might do the trick. For the
>> quality, defining too many different shelter types to reflect a quality
>> might
>> be tricky as being quite subjective or a full range of possibilities.
>>
>> --
>> sly
>> sylvain letuffe
>>
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