[OSM-talk] sidewalks

Lester Caine lester at lsces.co.uk
Sat Aug 8 15:46:56 BST 2009


Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
  >> Giving a practical example of where currently pedestrian routing can't be
>> carried out ..
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.52986&lon=-0.44605&zoom=17&layers=B000FTF
>> ( I lived in Hewens Road many years ago so know that area )
>> There is a fence down the middle of the dual carriage way ( the Uxbridge Road
>> ), and a number of pedestrian crossing links which are the safe way across. In
>> micromapping terms, there are several 'sidewalks', the safe ones are on the
>> north side of the white 'service road' along the side of the dual carriageway,
>> and there are actually similar routes missing from the south side of the road.
>> The 'sidewalks' between the various sections of the road - while usable - are
>> in some areas also fenced like the middle of the dual carriageway to prevent
>> people being pushed into the roadway.
> 
> couldn't you just map the fences and crossings? IMHO the pedestrian
> pavements would clearly have to be mapped separately when divided from
> the road by a fence (and they should be mapped separately where there
> is no fence according to current model).

Mapping the fences would have to be in addition to the various pavements and 
service roads. The pavement is on one side of a service road, there is a fence 
between the service road and the main carriage way and not enough room for 
someone to walk, and then openings for pedestrian crossings, some with 
markings on the service road, with fenced staggered pedestrian areas on the 
central reservation. But perhaps 100 yards away, there will actually be a 
pavement between the service road and the carriage way and no fences. There is 
a bus bay as well, just to add to the fun :)

I've just been out to pick up some shopping and started to look at the actual 
path situations on the roads I was driving down, and it does get amazingly 
complex. The B road near by has a path down one side, separated from the road 
by a grass verge, but it stops ( probably on the county boundary ;) ) and 
becomes a sidewalk on the other side of the road into the next village. 
Through the next village, the footpath takes a complex route, only rejoining 
the side of the road towards the other end of the village. It looks like I 
need to expand the local mapping to include all of this and THEN sort out how 
it should be tagged. But adding highway=footpath down the side of 
highway=secondary just seems totally out of place ..... ? There is only one 
roadway ...

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