[OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

[Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)]

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:43:22 +0200, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Lulu-Ann at gmx.de wrote:
>> There was a change on the highway key wiki page, that interferes with
>> the concept presented here.
> 
> Have you read the following relevant thread on talk-de:
> 
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-August/052258.html
> 
> Since both you and dieterdreist are speakers of German, I'm surprised 
> that you didn't speak up when the issue was raised on talk-de three 
> weeks ago and now start a discussion on this list.
> 
The German speaking community on OSM is large, but not large enough to form
a majority, this sort of discussions should be brought forward to the
general talk if the national lists agrees in some form of change so that
those of us that doesn't speak german can take part in the process.
>  > IMHO this is a new dimension of vandalism.
> 
> The acronym "IMHO" is not well placed if you throw around such 
> accusations. What you're saying here is not a "humble" opinion.
> 
>  > I also think we need a consensus that tag descriptions for tags that
>  > are used more than 100.000 times shall not be changed without a
>  > proposal.
> 
> That seemed to be the consensus on talk-de as well (or at least "without 
> prior discussion", not necessarily on the Wiki - personally I dislike 
> proposals, discussions and voting on the Wiki).
> 
If such discussions on national/lingual mailing lists isn't brought to
other lists, and mainly to talk, than the Wiki is the only common medium.
All proposal of this scale should have an english page (though I guess
there will be discussions in several linguas as well) and consesus have to
be reached among all groups of OSM, not a couple of selective groups, even
if it is the larger communities.

Adding new tags, and changing widely used tags are two very different
topics, and the bar of changing a tag such as highway should be much higher
than to add a new type of amenities.

-- 
Brgds
Aun Johnsen
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