[OSM-talk] How to tag lanes, not ways, was: Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

[John Smith]

2009/8/30 Anthony <osm at inbox.org>:
> It was you who suggested that a stop sign is applicable to a lane not a
> way.  I'd say, like Tobias, that it is applicable to a way and a direction.

No, you stop at a stop sign which is a point on a way, direction only
matters if you can't tag this point on individual lanes.

> Where I live we do not have multiple lanes.  You park on the side and you
> drive around parked cars in the middle.  With very few exceptions, stop
> signs don't apply to lanes, they apply to ways and directions.  In those few
> exceptions, it probably makes sense to split the way.  In the case of the

That would confuse a lot of people that are used to ways being physical.

> exceptions I can think of this is especially appropriate because at the spot
> where the stop sign applies to one lane and not the others the road is
> divided by a painted median and changing lanes is not allowed.  There are
> probably a small number of exceptions where this is not true, but splitting
> the way in those cases is harmless.

I think you are confusing what I said, assuming you have a way which
is a lane of through traffic that runs in each direction, the stop
sign only applies to one of the 2 lanes, not the entire way. The rest
of your email seemed to keep making the same flawed assumptions about
what I said.

> I really don't see how it's less complicated to use the physical rather than
> the logical.  It's actually much more complicated when you get into the
> micro areas and you start adding straight lines through a large intersection
> instead of curved left turns.

Because most ways are a simple case of 2 symmetrical lanes, one in
each direction, so simplier because it's half the work to make 2 lanes
by making a single way. Mapping a way becomes more easier than lanes
if there is 3 or 4 or 10 lanes.