[OSM-talk] How to tag lanes, not ways, was: Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

[Roy Wallace]

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Anthony<osm at inbox.org> wrote:
>
> You want to have two completely different ways to tag stop
> signs?  What's your solution?  Stop signs are directional, whether they are
> lane based or not.

+1 - I agree with Tobias and Anthony. John, I know you feel that
solving the "lane" problem will solve the "stop sign" problem (indeed
it might), but the stop sign problem *can be solved independently* (by
indicating the direction or the junction to which it applies), and is
a simpler problem to solve - so I think we should go ahead with this
and vote for either the use of a way+node relation or a node+direction
tag to denote a stop sign (I vote for relation for several reasons).

> That makes no sense.  You want to have lanes instead of ways?
>
> Lanes are ways.

+1

John, perhaps we're missing something. Why do you want to add more
tables to the DB? I don't see why you think using a relation is a
"hack". You said, "just like a relation joins multiple ways, a way
[should join] multiple lanes." From the wiki: "relations are basically
groups of objects in which each object may take on a specific role."
This sounds suitable for what you're suggesting. Have you seen
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/lane_and_lane_group,
for example?