[OSM-talk] OSMF: The people you are going to hand over your OSM data ...

[Michael Barabanov]

I wonder how easy it is in fact to usefully take the OSM data without giving
things back, even with the current license.  Seems to me, not so easy. OSM
data is not perfect. To create a value-add, a commercial entity would have
to extend it.  So let's say they do in some non-trivial way (e.g. not just
copy the data wholesale or just create POIs).
The next few updates of OSM in the area in question will likely break those
extensions, as there doesn't seem to be a way to merge non-trivial changes
(e.g. topology changes).
The best course of action for such a commercial entity would be to
contribute things back then.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:50 AM, SteveC <steve at asklater.com> wrote:

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> On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Stefan de Konink wrote:
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> > Lambertus schreef:
> >>> I'm just curious... why?
> >>>
> >> You misunderstand: Google would get my data for free and keep it closed.
> >> You'd only be able to use it the way Google intends it to be used: their
> >> map and their navigation software. OSM on the other hand allows you to
> >> do exactly the same as CM, GF, KPN whatever. There's an huge difference,
> >> you know that.
> >
> > You cannot see the process how Cloudmade, Geofabrik and others process
> > their data.
>
> Well the huge difference is that OSM is under a reciprocal license, Google
> and others want us to be PD because they don't want to give anything back.
> CM wants to give back all the time, and does.
>
> > You do not get anything back from how companies that use OSM
> > for visual representation. And if Google offers OSM in GoogleEarth and
> > maps you are actually benefiting from several things that you cannot get
> > now:
> >
> > - - Massive adoption, visibility to the general public
> > - - Hosting, no more slow world wide tile servers
> > - - And most likely if this `evil' company was involved the 'do trace'
> > photos
> >
> >
> > Honestly, you are only spreading FUD around a company that does nothing
> > more with respect to Geodata then another company in this list wanted to
> > do exclusively on OSM data.
> >
> > You can claim that with 'yournavigation' you do elaborate on the process
> > on how routing is done. You are the 'free' side of OSM. Don't forget
> > that the amount of 'free' commercial projects here are very small.
> > Basically because everyone here seems to be protecting their goods.
> >
> > If the last thing is the only reason for them to vote yes, then I'm very
> > happy I'm having {{PD-user}} and {{OSM-anarchist}} because I want my
> > work on this small blue planet to be build upon not duplicated by some
> > cheap Indian. (nofi)
> >
> >
> > Stefan
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> Yours &c.
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> Steve
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