[OSM-talk] Cycleways wiki doc enhanced

Steve Bennett stevagewp at gmail.com
Tue Dec 29 04:11:20 GMT 2009


On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Pieren <pieren3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Could some cycleway experimented mappers check and complete this wiki
> page that I enhanced with new pictures and examples :
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle#Cycle_amenagements
>
>
The structure looks really good.

A few random comments:

1) Not sure why you're using "highway=unclassified" - you know
"unclassified' is a particular type of road, right? Whereas cycleways can
occur on almost any kind of road. So you probably should write something
like "highway=<whatever>".

2) In example L1a, I have a strong preference for using existing tags
(cycleway=lane) if possible, rather than introducing new, unsupported tags
(cycleway:left=lane). Similarly for M4 and probably others.

3) Make it clearer in the intro that these examples are all for a
right-drive country.

4) Avoid using "same as <...>" - just restate it, imho.

5) IMHO it's a bit confusing that "Way A" is the right-hand side way.

6) You could also add "cycleway=no" where appropriate.

7) You don't make allowance for segregated cycleways
("tracks"/copenhagen-style lanes) that aren't represented as distinct ways.
Is "highway=residential, cycleway=track" not possible?

8) Since I don't think we have total consensus on how to map all this stuff,
it might be worth setting up multiple columns to show how different groups
are currently mapping, and using that to work towards consensus.

Steve


> I tried to summarize the tagging based on that page and others (e.g.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access and
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway).
> I didn't catch the meaning of two unusual tags in the Key:access page:
>
> For more complex direction dependent restrictions, the postfixes
> :backward and :forward can be used on the keys, for example:
>    * bicycle:backward=no (when a road has a oneway cycleway next to
> it that must be used, and a cyclelane in the other direction)
>    * bicycle:backward=yes (when cyclists are allowed to travel in
> both directions on a oneway street (but no lane is present))
>
> All comments, remarks are welcome,
>
> Pieren
>
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