[OSM-talk] OSM license change: A license to kill? -> How to make a nightmare come true!

Iván Sánchez Ortega ivan at sanchezortega.es
Wed Mar 4 14:32:30 GMT 2009


El Miércoles, 4 de Marzo de 2009, Ulf Lamping escribió:
> Hopefully you know and trust the lawyers, foundation, whoever, ...
> involved. WE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THEM SO WHY SHOULD WE MAGICALLY TRUST
> THEM?!?

Because they are more knowledgeable in their field than we are.


I do think this is another ad-hominem attack against the ODbL. 

By using your same way of thinking, I shouldn't use my car because I don't 
know and trust the designers and assemblers that built it. Counter-examples 
could go on and on.




Now, I'm becoming increasingly annoyed by the noise-to-signal ratio in the 
hundreds of e-mails in the lists bitching about how bad the people involved 
in the licensing process did. *Again*, share-alike versus PD. *Again*, having 
to explain how the EU DB directive works. *Again*, "new license took too 
long" at the same time as "we need more time for peer review". *Again*, 
project forks and OSMF board evilness.

If you think a PD fork is neccesary, fork the project, ALREADY. If you think 
SteveC is evil, step up in the next elections for the OSMF board, ALREADY. If 
you think the ODbL is flawed, get your own lawyer to review it, ALREDAY*. 
Let's try to be objective and productive here, m'kay?

* Cheers to Peter Miller on this one.



On the other hand, I'm absolutely sure that the ODbL will fail and be 
exploited. The same way that the GPL2 was exploited by TiVo. I'm absolutely 
sure the ODbL will not address problems in different jurisdictions just the 
same way the first version of the CC licenses didn't. We now have GPL3 and CC 
3.0, and at some point we'll have ODbL2 and ODbL3 and whatnot.

So, what's the big deal about the ODbL not addressing every single issue on 
its first incarnation?




(Geez, I needed to blow off some steam)

Cheers all,
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