[OSM-talk] OSM license change: A license to kill? -> How to make a nightmare come true!
Russ Nelson
russ at cloudmade.com
Wed Mar 4 16:42:36 GMT 2009
On Mar 4, 2009, at 2:33 AM, Ulf Lamping wrote:
> Simply saying "we're the OSMF board and we know what's good for you"
> is
> a very, very bad idea to build trust!
But that's not what Steve said. Steve is trying to teach you how
lawyers work. I've watched lawyers work, as a fly on the wall. They
work very much like hackers, throwing ideas off each other, but
they're doing it in an incompatible space. Unless you've got
expertise in that space (as Gerv and I have, and maybe others), then
you need to be careful about what you ask for.
> Hopefully you know and trust the lawyers, foundation, whoever, ...
> involved. WE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THEM SO WHY SHOULD WE MAGICALLY TRUST
> THEM?!?
You can't. There is no magic wand to create trust. Only through time
and repeated interaction can you learn to trust somebody. And if
you've been around for more than a year, you've had that time and
those interactions -- if you've chosen to pay attention. If you
expect to participate in the process afterwards, then I think your
expectations are off.
> There were NO!!! introduction of the players involved, no ideas how to
> build trust in the community ... (e.g. what's the relation to the OSI
> initiative?).
Well, the Open Source Initiative is only starting to dip its toe into
Open Data. Clearly it's a complicated topic, especially when it comes
to "source code" and "derived works", and "reciprocal licenses" (I
prefer "reciprocal" to "virus". Reciprocating is good; having a virus
is not).
--
Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson
russ at cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson
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