[OSM-talk] OSM license change: A license to kill? -> How to make a nightmare come true!

[Nop]

Hi!

SteveC schrieb:
> We've not always done a great job of communicating for a variety of 
> reasons but it was never with malice.

But you have actually succeeded in making quite a number of people 
suspect malice - and warn others about that.

I do not agree, but I think it is a natural reaction, especially in a 
community concerned about freedom:
- You keep me in the dark and suprise me
- You try to force my consent while I have had no chance to inform myself
=> What are you hiding? What are you up to?

I don't know you. And I had to google to check your affiliation with 
OSMF. I have no reason to trust you. I have no reason to suspect you of 
malice. But your repeated "Not our job" statements towards this matter 
worries me a lot.

It is your initiative. It is your job. And if you don't do a better job 
of including the community and breaking the news in an acceptable way to 
everybody really quick, I fear desaster. You are inviting hundreds of 
"No" decisions just because of bad information policy.

>> I recon there was no way to find out about this short of subscribing to
>> legal talk - and why on earth would any mapper do that if he has no idea
>> that anything concerning him is going on?
>>
>> This is the first time an ordinary OSM member had a chance to get notice
>> of the licence change and I bet you that there are 80000 account holders
>> who still have no idea that anything is going on - so the process is
>> just starting now. And we still have failed to give notice and
>> understandable (translated) information to the majority of participants.
> 
> I want to correct something here, there is this view of 100,000 users 
> needing consent. The number is in fact far smaller for people who ever 
> made an edit (about 30% of the users). It's vastly smaller still for 
> anyone who has edited anything significant. It's an easier problem than 
> you might think, is what I'm saying. Far easier than convincing you I 
> don't have a satanic portal in my basement.

You know what you're saying? You don't care about 100000 people who are 
interested or want to contribute, you just care about the data of the 
8000 (?) who have substantially contributed?

This is a community. This is about people. At least it should be.

Can't you understand why people do not trust you and suspect you are 
just out to grab their work when you argue like this?

Even though I am in favour of the licence itself, this way of thinking 
is unacceptable to me.


bye
	Nop