[OSM-talk] Bulk import as a data layer (like gpx currently is)

[Russ Nelson]

I'm not sure I wrote clearly enough, because it seems like you didn't  
understand what I said.  Everything that someone might want to add to  
the map should, if imported, actually BE in the map, not in a separate  
database or separate layer.  Every editor should show this data to a  
user when they go to edit.  Otherwise, if there are things that are  
available to a map renderer but not to an editor, how will the editor  
know that the things are in the map already?  Perhaps they could use  
the existing map renders as a backdrop? Then you'd end up with editors  
as second-class citizens to renderers, and put (BACK) in the position  
of needing to beg for changes.  That's precisely what we want to avoid  
by having an editable map database.

On Mar 15, 2009, at 9:37 AM, MP wrote:

> Well, I thought we would have one layer per each mass import (so you
> can look at what was imported) - one layer for TIGER import, one layer
> for AND import, etc ...  and the data would ge trimported both in that
> special layer and in ordinary layer, where everybody can edit it.
>
> In future, we can have layers even at different servers not operated
> by OSM (for things that are not exactly within scope of OSM map), like
> layers with wifi hotspots, etc ...
>
> Technically, these layers will merely redirect to another server.
>
> Martin
>
>> Errrrr, no.  Anything that someone might ADD to the map should be, if
>> imported, in the same place.  Otherwise, someone will fire up their
>> editor, not see the data that already been imported, and start to add
>> it.  No better way to piss off a volunteer than to waste their time.
>>
>> Yes, there are problems with this approach.  We need to solve them,
>> not run away from them.  We'll just create worse problems if we try  
>> to
>> avoid solving this problem.  We ALREADY have to deal with it with the
>> TIGER import.  Neither that data, nor the edits made to it, are going
>> to be exiled from the database into this proposed "bulk import data
>> layer".
>>
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