[OSM-talk] [OSM-newbies] avoid repeating the name tag twice

[Emilie Laffray]

Hi,

this is an interesting question. I have a slightly related question
regarding the naming of objects in OSM.
I was wondering in that case the :ua is actually needed since it is
actually the native language of the place. Wouldn't it make more sense
to have simply addr:street: and keep the one for English.
I am not sure that here a translation is actually needed. If you need to
go to an address, unless it is something extremely famous, you will be
inputting the local name not any foreign name.
So if this scenario was to prevail, ua and en suffix added, how do we
know that it is the native language?
I suspect that in most cases, the only language that you will find is
only the native language.

Emilie Laffray

Nick Black wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Was there an agreed answer to this issue.
>
> I want to tag an address in Kyiv using both the English and Ukrainian
> street names.  
>
> Sounds like I can do:
>
> addr:street:en:Tereschenkivska Street
>
> and
>
> addr:street:ua:Терещнкіівська
>
> Is this best practice? 
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Ben Laenen <benlaenen at gmail.com
> <mailto:benlaenen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On Sunday 15 March 2009, Tal wrote:
>     > name:local_lang="fr - nl" is indeed an interesting idea, that I
>     > haven't thought of.
>     > However, I ask myself if it's flexible enough.
>     > It seems that for just a little more coding you get the much more
>     > flexible "{name:fr} - {name:nl}" (with special escape combinations
>     > \\, \{, \}  ).
>     >
>     > I think that mappers from Brussels and also other parts of the word
>     > with strings comprised from two languages should add there insights.
>     > Do they care about this problem? Are they willing to use such a
>     > solution?
>
>     Only if it's actually rendering both names, and only if it applies
>     to an
>     area that automatically adds the "local_lang=fr;nl" tag to all objects
>     inside its boundaries (it's just a bad idea to tag every object with
>     what it's local language is, you can override with a tag on the object
>     itself if it's different).
>
>     I wouldn't do "local_lang=fr - nl" as the separator can always
>     vary for
>     the same object (you could have a dash, or a newline or just a
>     space, a
>     slash or a bullet or whatever), depending on what the person
>     making the
>     maps likes most.
>
>     But given the complexity of handling boundaries to add tags to the
>     objects I think we'll be doing "name=Dutch name - French
>     name", "name:nl=Dutch name", "name:fr=French name" in Brussels for a
>     long time to come.
>
>     Greetings
>     Ben
>
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