[OSM-talk] Will Google ever use OSM data?

[SteveC]

You're conflating two entirely different points and as far as I can see, trolling.

On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Russ Nelson wrote:

> On 12/11/2009 21:31, SteveC wrote:
>> That's half true. Nobody likes the uncertainty around CC, but
>> really they want us to be PD because they don't want to give any
>> data away. They'd love to suck it all in, improve it and then keep
>> the improvements. Just look at the current data set they're not
>> releasing, even in the middle of nowhere, Africa.
> 
> Steve, one of the things we've learned at the Open Source Initiative
> over the past 11 years is that code without community is dead code.
> Well, the same thing goes for OSM data.  Without the community that
> created it, it's dead data.  That's *exactly* the reason that folks
> like Shaun and Andy complain about imports.  Imports are dead data.
> 
> So on the one hand we have OSMers saying "Don't use dead data".  On
> the other hand, we have you saying "Watch out for sharing our
> data without restrictions! Google would use our dead data."[1]
> 
> Seems to me that we're either all right, or we're all wrong about that
> issue.  Doesn't seem to me like we can be half of either.
> 
> --
> 
> [1] If you think it's trivial to make additions to OSM without sharing
> them back, whilst other people keep editing, consider that some of the
> best minds on the planet can't make *removals* from OSM reliably.  We
> still have no good way to revert a changeset -- and people think that
> Google can make additions which are robust in the face of changing OSM
> data?  And if Google *was* going to take our PD data, what's currently
> stopping them from taking the data contributed by various OSM editors
> who have dedicated their edits to the public domain?  If they haven't
> done it for YY% of OSM, it's hard to predict with a straight face that
> they would do it to 100% of OSM.
> 
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Yours &c.

Steve