[OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

[Steve Bennett]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Roy Wallace <waldo000000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think we should aim for a globally consistent database, because
> 1) I travel a fair bit (I've never been to Bulgaria, but maybe someday
> soon)
> 2) I do NOT want to be limited to "Noppia-compatible" routing software
> if I visit Noppia (etc.)
>

Consider it "internationally aware" software. Routing software that is aware
of the local laws of each country seems obvious. We'll limit the variations
as much as possible, of course.


> 3) I think it's not that hard to be globally consistent - it just
> comes at the cost of verbosity (which is cheap)
>

I think verbosity is expensive. My experience is with Wikipedia, where
everyone always thinks the labour is free. It may be free, but it's finite.
And the more you get people to waste their time doing tedious busywork, the
less time they spend doing useful things.



> Adding tags that help clarify what I mean does not piss me off. I am
> quite happy to add direction=clockwise to roundabouts if necessary.
> Ultimately, why not aim to have direction=* applied to ALL
> roundabouts?


Sure, by all means, have that tag applied. But forcing someone to manually
add it when the roundabout in question is in a left-drive country is
insulting. Maybe the client could add it automatically. I don't know.


> I know you have a different position, which is fine. I'm
> surprised that you feel "one extra tag is a lot of extra effort" -
> have you tried various editor presets, auto-complete, selecting
> multiple entities before applying a tag, etc.?
>

Auto-complete, yes, and I still think plus-s-o-enter-n-enter is too many
keystrokes to add "source=nearmap". (It's even worse in josm:
alt+b-s-o-tab-n-enter).

Maybe I need to use josm to do something like search for everything I've
touched that has no source and bulk-update. But that could make mistakes.

Will investigate "editor presets".

Steve
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