[OSM-talk] How to map cemetery ?

[Ulf Lamping]

Craig Wallace schrieb:
> On 09/09/2009 22:00, David Earl wrote:
>> On 09/09/2009 21:43, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>>    
>>> Is grave_yard tag used? I don't see it in JOSM. Why is the wiki so
>>> confusing for this simple thing to map.
>>>      
>> I think the original distinction was that a graveyard is the burial
>> ground around a church, while a cemetery is a separate pice of land set
>> aside for burials, not necessarily associated with a church, or a
>> denomination - in the UK, many of these are operated by local
>> authorities not religious institutions, while the graveyard around a
>> church is exclusive to the church.
> Though around here, quite a few of the graveyards next to churches are 
> operated by the council, and they are called "placename Cemetery" or 
> similar.

So what's the question now?

>> Having said that, I kind of agree with you, that the distinction is
>> subtle and probably adds little.
>>    
> It seems like a fairly pointless and confusing distinction to me. 
> Shouldn't the fact that they are next to / around a church be obvious 
> from the church marked on the map? And the cemetery can be tagged with 
> the operator / religion / denomination as appropriate.

Well, it's simply a bad thing to indicate stuff by something that's 
"nearby". What's nearby? 1m/10m/100m/1000m? Is it indicated by a 
place_of_worship, a building=church or xy?

> Also, I notice (according to Map Features on the wiki) 
> amenity=grave_yard can apply to a node or an area, whereas 
> landuse=cemetery is supposed to be just for areas.
> Though amenity=grave_yard on a node doesn't seem to rendered at all (on 
> Mapnik or Osmarender), but landuse=cemetery on a node does render the 
> name (but no symbol).
> On areas, both appear to be rendered identically.

Don't tag for the renderers ;-)

Regards, ULFL