[OSM-talk] Seoul

[Andrew Errington]

On Wed, September 9, 2009 21:44, Emilie Laffray wrote:
> 2009/9/9 Andrew Errington <a.errington at lancaster.ac.uk>
>
>
>>
>>
>> I don't disagree.  However, the convention has been established, and
>> it's not entirely a bad thing.  It means I can contribute to the map (in
>>  English) and I can read the map at the OSM site (because Mapnik
>> renders the name=* tag, not a language-specific tag).  Besides, it's
>> only one SQL update statement to change all of the name=* tags to the
>> content of any name:ko=* tag.
>>
>>
>> If OSM's Mapnik renderer would render in a selectable language, then I
>> would definitely discourage the English in parentheses.  As it is, this
>> way the map is useful to me in Korea, and to Koreans.
>>
>>
> You can already render in a specific language with Mapnik. The wikipedia
> people are currently experimenting with localized maps. It is just that
> the main map is using name by default. It was the reason for Stefan Korner
> push to translate all countries in the world in all different languages.

Just one more thing to add to this.  I just noticed the Japanese tagging
guide[1] also uses the convention that name=* should be Japanese followed
by a space and the name in English in parentheses.  The reason given is
for the Name finder[2] search to work properly.

I want to discuss this at talk-ko, but there aren't many members there
yet.  It seems that ceasing this convention would have knock-on effects,
but it's the right thing to do IMHO.

What I want is a map view where the name rendering can be chosen[3]:
1. name:xx
2. name:xx (name:yy)

1. renders "name:xx=*" if present and "name=*" if not
2. renders "name:xx=* (name:yy=*)".  If name:xx is not present then
"name=* (name:yy=*)", if name:yy is not present then "name:xx=*" (or
"name=*")

Andrew

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Japan_tagging#Names
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Name_finder
[3] and a pony.