[OSM-talk] Frederik declares war on data imports...

[Peteris Krisjanis]

2010/8/8 John Smith <deltafoxtrot256 at gmail.com>:
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-August/003908.html
>
> Basically those in favour of PD but not directly effected by or
> benefiting from data imports would like to have them all ripped out
> and replaced with surveyed data.

I respect PD guys, but in overall, I start to grow to openly dislike
their attitude. Their "PD at all costs" attitude will drive more and
more contributors away, and not because of PD, but of their pushing PD
down our throats ignoring pleas to stop.

Frederic, citing your email in legal:
"Some people seem to think that such a fork is evil; some seem to even
use it as a threat ("and if I don't get what I want, then... then...
then... I'll FORK THE PROJECT!!!!"). But I don't view it that way. One
is always best at doing what one likes, and continuing in an environment
which one doesn't like is not only bad for oneself but also bad for that
environment. So if one is unhappy with how things go in OSM, and feels
it cannot be changed,"

Well, first of all, you seem not to getting it why most of us are
here. We want to make a map, period. We want to do it with a hassle as
less as possible. While it is tempting to fork, it is not a opinion.
It means splitting effort. It means two maps who are not sustainable
as much as OSM is now. No one wants to do it. You want us to do it and
you actually more and more pushing people to do it. You simply poison
public communication of project so we, those who disobey or disagree
about the future of OSM as PD, would leave. And I won't get into how
wrong it is to do that.

As much you like concept of fact as non-copyrightable, most
geographical facts coming in bunches and are copyrighted. It is
reality which you seem don't like to accept. But it is how world works
for now and will for some time.

In my opinion, it is PD guys should do a fork and work from there to
get rest of data PDified. Not SA guys. For me having everything what
is in OSM to released in PD is about three four years at best. So we
will have to jeopardise our current efforts in main project just
because you want PD? It is really worth this fallout in community?

Have a nice day,
Peter.