[OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Enough is enough: disinfecting OSM from poisonous people

Hiroshi Miura miurahr at linux.com
Wed Aug 11 00:25:13 BST 2010


   Andy Allan wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:19 PM, SteveC<steve at asklater.com>  wrote:
>
>> What are your ideas? How should we block people? For how long? What process should it be? What are the best practices from other projects you're involved in?
> I think this is a great topic, and its nice to see it properly aired.
> I'm certainly in the "getting disillusioned" camp - not with the wider
> project, but in our inability to deal with the malcontents and
> disruptors, on the mailing lists, on the wiki, and in the database. I
> keep finding myself considering other projects where things are,
> y'know, a bit more enjoyable.
>
>  From my point of view we lack most of the building blocks to make
> moderation like this work. We lack accepted written guidelines in
> almost everything we do. What's a suitable topic for the newbies
> mailing list? How many nodes are too many on a roundabout? Should I
> post a question on help.openstreetmap.org and then argue with the
> answers? Why shouldn't I change all these tags? Who deals with revert
> wars on the wiki? Or agenda pushing in general? And so on. Without
> these guidelines, even well-meaning people can't properly self-police.
>
> I'd recommend the Art of Community for anyone interested in this.
> http://www.artofcommunityonline.org - it's exactly what we need to
> have people thinking about. What we do need to avoid though is
> bureacracy - I'd be quite happy to nominate a few people to write all
> the guidelines and have their word as law, rather than creating
> committees or suchlike.

Thank you for good reference. In order to make consensus,
it will be better to start from drafting something in general.
I think this is great topic and I may be need to share it
with our local member who don't join talk ML.

Hiroshi
OSM Japan

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