[OSM-talk] Coordination for Haiti Mapping

Wed Jan 27 15:51:28 GMT 2010

I have a group of volunteers who will be mapping on Jan. 30 and am
wondering:
1.) If there is any more up-to-date needs for mapping than the general
requests on the wiki;
2.) If there are any plans to develop a more comprehensive ticketing system
than what is suggested on the wiki (essentially monitoring CrisisMappers);
and
3.) What is the best way to avoid duplicating efforts? I am aware of two
other groups that may be mapping this weekend and would like to find a way
to coordinate among groups.

This is my first posting so I apologize if this isn’t the appropriate forum.
I’ve been doing my best to come up to speed via the wiki and the listserv
but I’ve still got a long way to go…

Best,
Shadrock Roberts

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>   1. Re: We need better docs on installing Haiti Garmin maps   + a
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>   2. Re: Haiti feedback from IFRC (clara)
>   3. Re: Broken formatting on diary (jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com)
>   4. Re: Haiti feedback from IFRC (Frederik Ramm)
>   5. Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: FW: World Bank, GFDRR, RIT, ImageCAT
>      Remote Sensing Mission to Haiti - Status Report - 23 January 2010
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 02:57:32 -0800
> From: Sam Vekemans <acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] We need better docs on installing Haiti Garmin
>        maps    + a MapSource installer
> To: Lambertus <osm at na1400.info>
> Cc: openstreetmap <talk at openstreetmap.org>,
>        crisismappers at googlegroups.com
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> Hi ya,
>
> Ok, so right now the only way that i know how to make garmin mapsource
> installers (the easier way)
> is to use mapcenter2.cgpsmapper.com
>
> http://mapcenter2.cgpsmapper.com/faq.php
>
> It's an online compiler that does the work of figuring out the zoom levels
> and overview map.
> I havent used it in some time, but from what i remember, you just need to
> make the .mp file in gpsmapedit (open up the IMG files from Geofabrik &
> saveAs .mp file). and save it as a 8 # filename.
> So once the map is created, its available on that site, but also just make
> a
> copy somewhere else or have a direct link to it from the wiki.   (ideally
> every country (region) in the world can have an installer map made)
>
> Oh ya, you'll see in the cataloger that there ARE a few maps in there that
> was created from OSM data.
>
> When im done making the contour map installer for 10m, i'll be working on
> trying to get this created.
> But if anyone else figures it out before i get around to it, please post to
> the main talk-list :)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Sam
>
> PS. the experts in this department live on the yahoo mailing list.
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/map_authors/
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Lambertus <osm at na1400.info> wrote:
>
> > Frederik Ramm wrote:
> > > The Geofabrik process does not have multiple steps (and thus no "map
> > > combining" step). I use the following parameters with mkgmap:
> > >
> > > -n 80000111 --description="OSM Map of Haiti dated $DATE"
> --country=HAITI
> > > --region-name=HAITI --region-abbr=HT1 --country-abbr=HT --latin1
> > > --road-name-pois --gmapsupp --draw-priority=99
> > >
> > The step I call 'combining' is where the --gmapsupp parameter is given
> > which is the above statement.
> >
> > > The "-n" and "--region-*" were requested by someone who needed the
> older
> > > .img files (not gmapsupp.img) for installation on an older type Garmin.
> > >
> > > I don't even specify --route - should I? Nobody ever complained.
> > >
> > Not exactly sure, but I don't think that --route is enabled by default
> > (--net is implied when --route is provided). I think you have to add it.
> > For Windows MapSource you have to add the --tdbfile as well.
> >
> > > I'm happy to modify that to whatever makes sense but admit to having
> > > absolutely null knowledge of "installers". When I add --nsis to the
> > > above, I get the following additional files: osmmap_license.txt (192
> > > bytes) and osmmap.nsi (1916 bytes). What do I do with them? Simply put
> > > them in the download directory and everything works magically? Would be
> > > too easy wouldn't it ;-)
> > >
> > Oops, sorry, it's apparently too long since I worked on that specific
> > bit. I've looked it up now:
> >
> > The nsi file must be given to NSIS (which is available in most linux
> > distributions). NSIS will produce the executable, e.g. "makensis
> > osmmap.nsi"
> >
> > If you want to add (partial) address searching ability then you can also
> > add the --index parameter which will create an additional .mdx file.
> >
> > So, all things combined I think your commandline should look like:
> > --mapname=80000111
> > --description="OSM Map of Haiti dated $DATE"
> > --country=HAITI
> > --region-name=HAITI
> > --region-abbr=HT1
> > --country-abbr=HT
> > --latin1
> > --road-name-pois
> > --gmapsupp
> > --draw-priority=99
> > --nsis
> > --index
> > --tdbfile
> > --overview-mapname=80000000
> > --family-id=3456                (any number will do usually)
> >
> > After that execute: makensis 80000000.nsi to create the MapSource
> > installer.
> >
> > If you also want to make an installer available for MacOSX (RoadTrip)
> > then you can use the gmapibuilder script
> > (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Gmapibuilder) from:
> > http://planetosm.oxilion.nl/~lambertus/gmapi-builder/<
> http://planetosm.oxilion.nl/%7Elambertus/gmapi-builder/>
> >
> > Then execute after the Mkgmap step:
> > gmapi-builder.py
> > -t ./80000000.tdb
> > -b ./80000000.img
> > -i ./80000000.mdx
> > -m ./80000000_mdr.img
> > ./80000111.img
> >
> > Hope this helps.
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> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:30:19 +0100
> From: clara <clara at aktivix.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti feedback from IFRC
> Cc: talk at openstreetmap.org
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> Hi,
>
> >> what does ggf mean? (I cannot believe it is a dutch word)
> >
> > A German abbreviation for "gegebenenfalls" which, in this context,
> > translates as "perhaps".
>
>  "ggf." "gegebenenfalls" needs to be translated as "where applicable"
> "if so" "where required".
>
> greetings
> clara
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> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:01:40 +0100
> From: "jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com"
>        <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Broken formatting on diary
> To: dev at openstreetmap.org, talk at openstreetmap.org
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> It has been fixed, thanks to TomH on #osm on irc.OFTC.net!
> mike
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:30 AM, jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com
> <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > can you please ?help me remove the broken formatting from my comment here
> :
> > ?http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/h4ck3rm1k3/diary/9347
> >
> > It must be the picture that messes it up.
> > thanks,
> > mike
> >
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:58:40 +0100
> From: Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti feedback from IFRC
> To: clara <clara at aktivix.org>
> Cc: talk at openstreetmap.org
> Message-ID: <4B603880.7080308 at remote.org>
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> Clara,
>
> clara wrote:
> >>> what does ggf mean? (I cannot believe it is a dutch word)
> >> A German abbreviation for "gegebenenfalls" which, in this context,
> >> translates as "perhaps".
> >
> >  "ggf." "gegebenenfalls" needs to be translated as "where applicable"
> > "if so" "where required".
>
> None of these makes sense in the context of the original message, that's
> why I said that in this context it translates as "perhaps". And I say
> that not because German is my mother tongue but because I know other
> texts written by the same person and I know how *he* uses "ggf." ;-)
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:30:40 +0100
> From: Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc at arkemie.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [CrisisMappers] Re: FW: World Bank, GFDRR,
>        RIT, ImageCAT Remote Sensing Mission to Haiti - Status Report - 23
>        January 2010
> To: Margie Roswell <mroswell at gmail.com>
> Cc: OSM-talk <talk at openstreetmap.org>
> Message-ID: <4B605C20.5030204 at arkemie.com>
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> Margie,
>
> For your location use :
>
> http://hypercube.telascience.org/tiles/1.0.0/worldbank-21-900913/!/!/!.jpg
>
> (works for me)
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
>
> Margie Roswell a ?crit :
> > This does not load the satellite image in potlatch.
> >
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.54022&lon=-72.236987&zoom=18.64498&tileurl=http://hypercube.telascience.org/tiles/1.0.0/worldbank-23-900913/!/!/!.jpg
> >
> >
> > Nor this URL (different lat-long, found in on the wiki page)
> >
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.54022&lon=-72.335987&zoom=18&tileurl=http://hypercube.telascience.org/tiles/1.0.0/worldbank-23-900913/!/!/!.jpg
> >
> > nor this (which I think should be centered around Leogane),:
> >
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.51032&lon=-72.63336987&zoom=18.64498&tileurl=http://hypercube.telascience.org/tiles/1.0.0/worldbank-23-900913/!/!/!.jpg
> >
> > Eventually I'll switch to JOSM, which I know has more capacity, but
> > I'm 80% on creating a how-to-load-haiti-data-onto-garmin-gps video,
> > and 20% (when rendering video) on OSM mapping, leaving no time for the
> > JOSM learning curve.
> >
> > In any case, I know eventually persistance will pay off:
> > Can you (or someone) provide an openstreetmap.org URL that will load
> > the worldbank-23 imagery into potlatch?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Margie
> > P.S. Longtime GIS person here, but never needed satellite data for
> > anything. so, out of my element, and (obviously) continuing to ask for
> > help. I'm motivated by that sms post from Leogane that said "we need
> > help, we're dying." Day four, of trying to map there... Sorry for
> > asking so many times... that's the motivation, in any case!
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:15 AM, crschmidt <crschmidt at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Jan 26, 6:26 pm, Margie Roswell <mrosw... at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> still no luck:
> >>>
> >>> I added this URL to the wiki, but I'm not getting the imagery.
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=18.54022&lon=-72.335987&zoom=18...
> >>>
> >> Margie,
> >>
> >> As I said, you needed a set of tiles. What Chris gave you was a
> >> screenshot of the coverage for the data, as you could see by pasting
> >> it into a browser.
> >>
> >> Contrary to my earlier statement, I did end up making the 23rd imagery
> >> a different layer.
> >>
> >> Overview:
> http://haiticrisismap.org/?zoom=12&lat=18.64498&lon=-72.23691&layers=osm,wb23
> >> URL In Potlatch:
> http://hypercube.telascience.org/tiles/1.0.0/worldbank-23-900913/!/!/!.jpg
> >> JOSM WMS:
> >>
> http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/geo/haiti/mapfiles/4326.map&layers=worldbank-23-4326&request=GetMap&version=1.0.0&styles=&format=image/jpeg&service=WMS&
> >>
> >> This imagery has also been integrated into the mosaic of haiti
> >> imagery.
> >>
> >> -- Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>> Am I at the wrong lat/long? or is it something else?
> >>>
> >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Imagery_and_data.
> ..
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Margie
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Chris <chrisgnicho... at att.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> typo in last note:http://maps.geography.uc.edu/~cgn/RIT-WASP-23rd.jpg
> >>>>
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